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Title: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: AimHigh on August 18, 2019, 10:15:30 AM
https://thespun.com/college-football/north-carolina-at-aggies-football-fbs/amp
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Decks on August 18, 2019, 11:05:22 AM
Long term strategic planning. Not gonna happen before year 2035....if approved.Folks gotta stop leaking info from wish lists and pushing it out as facts.

Personally I'd like to see us stay the course. Takes to much $$ to move up.By the time we're ready it would require a $35 million budget.

Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Rams3 on August 18, 2019, 04:22:31 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: bluedog on August 18, 2019, 04:58:05 PM
Long term strategic planning. Not gonna happen before year 2035....if approved.Folks gotta stop leaking info from wish lists and pushing it out as facts.

Personally I'd like to see us stay the course. Takes to much $$ to move up.By the time we're ready it would require a $35 million budget.
I was just thinking the same think. Hell there were at least 4 SWAC schools considering possibly leaving the SWAC a year ago. But nobody leak it to the media to be posted as a fact, and that was more realistic and sooner.
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: westcoastaggie on August 18, 2019, 06:47:12 PM
Long term strategic planning. Not gonna happen before year 2035....if approved.Folks gotta stop leaking info from wish lists and pushing it out as facts.

Personally I'd like to see us stay the course. Takes to much $$ to move up.By the time we're ready it would require a $35 million budget.
O was just thinking the same think. Hell there were at least 4 SWAC schools considering possibly leaving the SWAC a year ago. But nobody leak to the media to be posted as a fact, and that was more realistic and sooner.

Was this exploration before the new Commissioner was hired for the SWAC? If so, I completely understand as McClelland is doing a much better job already.
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: bluedog on August 18, 2019, 08:36:19 PM
Long term strategic planning. Not gonna happen before year 2035....if approved.Folks gotta stop leaking info from wish lists and pushing it out as facts.

Personally I'd like to see us stay the course. Takes to much $$ to move up.By the time we're ready it would require a $35 million budget.
O was just thinking the same think. Hell there were at least 4 SWAC schools considering possibly leaving the SWAC a year ago. But nobody leak to the media to be posted as a fact, and that was more realistic and sooner.

Was this exploration before the new Commissioner was hired for the SWAC? If so, I completely understand as McClelland is doing a much better job already.
Yes
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Ram55 on August 19, 2019, 10:48:29 AM
All jokes aside...
If some of the other schools on that list can make the jump, then so can A&T. I would be very happy if they can do this. HBCUs need a school on that level. They are our largest school and have a very high up side. They got my vote.  :clap:
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Jay_Thomas on August 19, 2019, 10:52:49 AM
 :nod: I believe that if any of our schools can do this successfully, A&T definitely can. Time will tell.  Question is: will other hbcu's join them? Hmmm...I actually hope so!  :shrug:
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Bison 4 Life on August 19, 2019, 11:27:34 AM
Aggies on another board basically said this is an exploratory discussion for a long range strategic plan by the school.
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: bluedog on August 19, 2019, 01:07:37 PM
:nod: I believe that if any of our schools can do this successfully, A&T definitely can. Time will tell.  Question is: will other hbcu's join them? Hmmm...I actually hope so!  :shrug:
With the state of Carolina cutting funding for sports more and more. Where do you think they are going to come up with the money to do it and fund it properly?
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Jay_Thomas on August 19, 2019, 02:27:01 PM
Bluedog  :shrug: Heck if I know.  At any rate, time will tell the story. We can speculate all day long.  A&T MAY decide after looking at every thing that it is not a good move for them. Whatever works for em.
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Ram55 on August 19, 2019, 02:58:29 PM
:nod: I believe that if any of our schools can do this successfully, A&T definitely can. Time will tell.  Question is: will other hbcu's join them? Hmmm...I actually hope so!  :shrug:
With the state of Carolina cutting funding for sports more and more. Where do you think they are going to come up with the money to do it and fund it properly?

Their student population would have to grow to about 15,000 plus and become more diverse to draw more sponsors. But it can be done. Even as a die hard WSSU fan, I would support this move. If our largest school can't do it, then which of us can?
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: oleschoolaggie on August 19, 2019, 05:31:38 PM
me personally, i do not support such a move.  we simply do not have the resources to compete at that level.  at least at the fcs level, we have a "fighting chance" to make some noise at the highest levels.  but at the fbs level, we have virtually "zero chance" of making noise at the highest levels.

so why even waste time and money trying to do so?  money raised to advance to the fbs level can be better used to build a true powerhouse at the fcs level...
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: MilesBear1 on August 19, 2019, 06:59:55 PM
 I agree with Oldschoolaggie.:nod:
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: LULions on August 19, 2019, 08:53:35 PM
me personally, i do not support such a move.  we simply do not have the resources to compete at that level.  at least at the fcs level, we have a "fighting chance" to make some noise at the highest levels.  but at the fbs level, we have virtually "zero chance" of making noise at the highest levels.

so why even waste time and money trying to do so?  money raised to advance to the fbs level can be better used to build a true powerhouse at the fcs level...

 :nod:
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: bluedog on August 19, 2019, 09:07:02 PM
me personally, i do not support such a move.  we simply do not have the resources to compete at that level.  at least at the fcs level, we have a "fighting chance" to make some noise at the highest levels.  but at the fbs level, we have virtually "zero chance" of making noise at the highest levels.

so why even waste time and money trying to do so?  money raised to advance to the fbs level can be better used to build a true powerhouse at the fcs level...
Yeah Tuskegee been having an exploratory committee for 9 years.  At some point you have to shelve it until a later date.
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Oldschool on August 19, 2019, 09:53:28 PM
Long term strategic planning. Not gonna happen before year 2035....if approved.Folks gotta stop leaking info from wish lists and pushing it out as facts.

Personally I'd like to see us stay the course. Takes to much $$ to move up.By the time we're ready it would require a $35 million budget.
^^^^^^^^^
What he said !!!!

Someone heard our Chancellor "thinking out loud" and ran with it.We ain't goin nowhere "Bad Boys For Life" .
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Ram55 on August 20, 2019, 09:54:38 AM
me personally, i do not support such a move.  we simply do not have the resources to compete at that level.  at least at the fcs level, we have a "fighting chance" to make some noise at the highest levels.  but at the fbs level, we have virtually "zero chance" of making noise at the highest levels.

so why even waste time and money trying to do so?  money raised to advance to the fbs level can be better used to build a true powerhouse at the fcs level...

oleschoolaggie - right now you can't make that move with what you have. However, planning long tern for what is needed to do so is what we're talking about. A&T can look a lot different in 15 years. If you approach a diverse population of 20,000 students and maintain your success at your current level, it would be a natural move to move up. This would be similar to what App. State did when they moved up. Right now, schools on that level would destroy ya'll, but maybe not in 15 years with proper planning. It has to start somewhere if its ever going to happen.
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: klg14 on August 20, 2019, 12:30:39 PM
What would an NCAT move to the FBS mean for the school, HBCU athletics?
https://hbcugameday.com/2019/08/19/can-ncat-become-the-first-hbcu-to-successfully-move-to-the-fbs/
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: soflorattler on August 20, 2019, 01:24:41 PM
Aggies on another board basically said this is an exploratory discussion for a long range strategic plan by the school.

A&T athletics director Hilton calls discussion of FBS move 'a thought exercise'

https://www.greensboro.com/sports/college/ncat/a-t-athletics-director-hilton-calls-discussion-of-fbs-move/article_e2a97abe-e8ac-52d1-8b31-8065b30786cf.html
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: oleschoolaggie on August 20, 2019, 02:41:20 PM
me personally, i do not support such a move.  we simply do not have the resources to compete at that level.  at least at the fcs level, we have a "fighting chance" to make some noise at the highest levels.  but at the fbs level, we have virtually "zero chance" of making noise at the highest levels.

so why even waste time and money trying to do so?  money raised to advance to the fbs level can be better used to build a true powerhouse at the fcs level...

oleschoolaggie - right now you can't make that move with what you have. However, planning long tern for what is needed to do so is what we're talking about. A&T can look a lot different in 15 years. If you approach a diverse population of 20,000 students and maintain your success at your current level, it would be a natural move to move up. This would be similar to what App. State did when they moved up. Right now, schools on that level would destroy ya'll, but maybe not in 15 years with proper planning. It has to start somewhere if its ever going to happen.

real simple, we can't even out spend pwc fcs schools and we certainly can't keep pace in terms of spending and resources with the top fcs schools like north dakota state.  so why would anybody believe that an hbcu can keep pace in terms of spending with fbs schools?  much less "bcs" schools.

i would also argue that there's a "glass ceiling" at the fbs level and that glass ceiling is called the "bcs".  the bcs schools are "way out of reach", impossible to outspend.  so why even bother?

now that more details have come out regarding dr. martin's statement, it is clear that a&t has no imminent plans of transitioning to the fbs level anytime soon.  so to me, this idea of moving to the fbs level is a "non-issue"...
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Ram55 on August 20, 2019, 04:27:21 PM
me personally, i do not support such a move.  we simply do not have the resources to compete at that level.  at least at the fcs level, we have a "fighting chance" to make some noise at the highest levels.  but at the fbs level, we have virtually "zero chance" of making noise at the highest levels.

so why even waste time and money trying to do so?  money raised to advance to the fbs level can be better used to build a true powerhouse at the fcs level...

oleschoolaggie - right now you can't make that move with what you have. However, planning long tern for what is needed to do so is what we're talking about. A&T can look a lot different in 15 years. If you approach a diverse population of 20,000 students and maintain your success at your current level, it would be a natural move to move up. This would be similar to what App. State did when they moved up. Right now, schools on that level would destroy ya'll, but maybe not in 15 years with proper planning. It has to start somewhere if its ever going to happen.

real simple, we can't even out spend pwc fcs schools and we certainly can't keep pace in terms of spending and resources with the top fcs schools like north dakota state.  so why would anybody believe that an hbcu can keep pace in terms of spending with fbs schools?  much less "bcs" schools.

i would also argue that there's a "glass ceiling" at the fbs level and that glass ceiling is called the "bcs".  the bcs schools are "way out of reach", impossible to outspend.  so why even bother?

now that more details have come out regarding dr. martin's statement, it is clear that a&t has no imminent plans of transitioning to the fbs level anytime soon.  so to me, this idea of moving to the fbs level is a "non-issue"...

All your points are valid, but it would be nice to have an HBCU on that level. You wouldn't have to be contenders... just competitive with the lower end schools. App State are not real contenders. They may get a vote or two in the polls, but that's it.

On another of your points, North Dakota State is not on its proper level.
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: y04185 on August 21, 2019, 05:50:55 AM
It's not going to happen.  They won't pay the coach enough.  How many HBCUs pay any coach more than the chancellor/president?
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Ram55 on August 21, 2019, 08:25:52 AM
It's not going to happen.  They won't pay the coach enough.  How many HBCUs pay any coach more than the chancellor/president?

All schools don't pay that way.
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: westcoastaggie on August 21, 2019, 08:56:18 AM
Long term strategic planning. Not gonna happen before year 2035....if approved.Folks gotta stop leaking info from wish lists and pushing it out as facts.

Personally I'd like to see us stay the course. Takes to much $$ to move up.By the time we're ready it would require a $35 million budget.
^^^^^^^^^
What he said !!!!

Someone heard our Chancellor "thinking out loud" and ran with it.We ain't goin nowhere "Bad Boys For Life" .

Yeah, hundreds of faculty heard the chancellor "thinking aloud" about challenging to become an R1 designated research institution, FBS athletics and a driving economic force in East Greensboro. They definitely cheered aloud for all three.

But, it was just thinking aloud.  ::)
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Ram55 on August 21, 2019, 10:54:34 AM
Long term strategic planning. Not gonna happen before year 2035....if approved.Folks gotta stop leaking info from wish lists and pushing it out as facts.

Personally I'd like to see us stay the course. Takes to much $$ to move up.By the time we're ready it would require a $35 million budget.
^^^^^^^^^
What he said !!!!

Someone heard our Chancellor "thinking out loud" and ran with it.We ain't goin nowhere "Bad Boys For Life" .

Yeah, hundreds of faculty heard the chancellor "thinking aloud" about challenging to become an R1 designated research institution, FBS athletics and a driving economic force in East Greensboro. They definitely cheered aloud for all three.

But, it was just thinking aloud.  ::)

Stop being afraid to be great. His thinking out loud is the start of being great.
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: A&T AGGIE 96 on August 21, 2019, 11:02:32 AM
Long term strategic planning. Not gonna happen before year 2035....if approved.Folks gotta stop leaking info from wish lists and pushing it out as facts.

Personally I'd like to see us stay the course. Takes to much $$ to move up.By the time we're ready it would require a $35 million budget.
^^^^^^^^^
What he said !!!!

Someone heard our Chancellor "thinking out loud" and ran with it.We ain't goin nowhere "Bad Boys For Life" .

Yeah, hundreds of faculty heard the chancellor "thinking aloud" about challenging to become an R1 designated research institution, FBS athletics and a driving economic force in East Greensboro. They definitely cheered aloud for all three.

But, it was just thinking aloud.  ::)

Stop being afraid to be great. His thinking out loud is the start of being great.

As AGGIES, we are not afraid of being great...that said, I don’t know a single AGGIE that heard the initial reports and said “Say what now”?

As alumni and supporters we know A&T has a lot of other fish to fry besides FBS football.
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: oleschoolaggie on August 21, 2019, 12:12:10 PM
ain't happening, folks!!  plain and simple.  time to move on...  :tiptoe:
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: bluedog on August 21, 2019, 12:18:43 PM
Long term strategic planning. Not gonna happen before year 2035....if approved.Folks gotta stop leaking info from wish lists and pushing it out as facts.

Personally I'd like to see us stay the course. Takes to much $$ to move up.By the time we're ready it would require a $35 million budget.
^^^^^^^^^
What he said !!!!

Someone heard our Chancellor "thinking out loud" and ran with it.We ain't goin nowhere "Bad Boys For Life" .

Yeah, hundreds of faculty heard the chancellor "thinking aloud" about challenging to become an R1 designated research institution, FBS athletics and a driving economic force in East Greensboro. They definitely cheered aloud for all three.

But, it was just thinking aloud.  ::)

Stop being afraid to be great. His thinking out loud is the start of being great.
Where was this advice when WSSU tucked their their tail and ran away from the meac?   pot....kettle.... Lol...
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Ram55 on August 21, 2019, 01:13:51 PM
Long term strategic planning. Not gonna happen before year 2035....if approved.Folks gotta stop leaking info from wish lists and pushing it out as facts.

Personally I'd like to see us stay the course. Takes to much $$ to move up.By the time we're ready it would require a $35 million budget.
^^^^^^^^^
What he said !!!!

Someone heard our Chancellor "thinking out loud" and ran with it.We ain't goin nowhere "Bad Boys For Life" .

Yeah, hundreds of faculty heard the chancellor "thinking aloud" about challenging to become an R1 designated research institution, FBS athletics and a driving economic force in East Greensboro. They definitely cheered aloud for all three.

But, it was just thinking aloud.  ::)

Stop being afraid to be great. His thinking out loud is the start of being great.
Where was this advice when WSSU tucked their their tail and ran away from the meac?   pot....kettle.... Lol...

We wasn't even close to being a true DIAA school in terms of anything. At the time our up side for being a DIAA is know where near where A&T's upside is now. There potential is greater than ours right now. We are barley a DII school. But don't get me wrong... I love my Rams. We were winning at our level, but at a cost we couldn't consistently sustain. A&T, with the proper time and growth can make this happen. They do need to approach a diverse 20,000 students to do so. I don't have a problem with one of our schools doing great things if they can.
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: bluedog on August 21, 2019, 01:57:49 PM
Long term strategic planning. Not gonna happen before year 2035....if approved.Folks gotta stop leaking info from wish lists and pushing it out as facts.

Personally I'd like to see us stay the course. Takes to much $$ to move up.By the time we're ready it would require a $35 million budget.
^^^^^^^^^
What he said !!!!

Someone heard our Chancellor "thinking out loud" and ran with it.We ain't goin nowhere "Bad Boys For Life" .

Yeah, hundreds of faculty heard the chancellor "thinking aloud" about challenging to become an R1 designated research institution, FBS athletics and a driving economic force in East Greensboro. They definitely cheered aloud for all three.

But, it was just thinking aloud.  ::)

Stop being afraid to be great. His thinking out loud is the start of being great.
Where was this advice when WSSU tucked their their tail and ran away from the meac?   pot....kettle.... Lol...

We wasn't even close to being a true DIAA school in terms of anything. At the time our up side for being a DIAA is know where near where A&T's upside is now. There potential is greater than ours right now. We are barley a DII school. But don't get me wrong... I love my Rams. We were winning at our level, but at a cost we couldn't consistently sustain. A&T, with the proper time and growth can make this happen. They do need to approach a diverse 20,000 students to do so. I don't have a problem with one of our schools doing great things if they can.
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Ram55 - right now you can't make that move with what you have. However, planning long tern for what was needed to do so is. WSSU could have look a lot different If you approach a diverse population of students and maintain your success at your current level. It would be a natural move to move up. This would be similar to what Ala. State did when they moved up. Right now, schools on that level would destroy ya'll, but maybe not in 15 years with proper planning. It has to start somewhere if its ever going to happen....again.
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: y04185 on August 21, 2019, 07:17:24 PM
They should look at being competitive in basketball.  It's a lot cheaper.
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: JBROB on August 21, 2019, 07:28:02 PM
I hope A&T got a call from a few sponsors in regards to what they would increase their sponsorship to if A&T was at the FBS level.
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: bluedog on August 21, 2019, 08:20:40 PM
I hope A&T got a call from a few sponsors in regards to what they would increase their sponsorship to if A&T was at the FBS level.
Man y'all killing me
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: JBROB on August 21, 2019, 09:18:18 PM
Off topic

‘Enormous potential and opportunity’: N.C. A&T’s chancellor looks ahead to a new academic year

https://www.greensboro.com/news/education/enormous-potential-and-opportunity-n-c-a-t-s-chancellor/article_6a610dc4-4655-5364-b1fb-6716deca7e0f.html
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Ram55 on August 22, 2019, 08:28:20 AM
Long term strategic planning. Not gonna happen before year 2035....if approved.Folks gotta stop leaking info from wish lists and pushing it out as facts.

Personally I'd like to see us stay the course. Takes to much $$ to move up.By the time we're ready it would require a $35 million budget.
^^^^^^^^^
What he said !!!!

Someone heard our Chancellor "thinking out loud" and ran with it.We ain't goin nowhere "Bad Boys For Life" .

Yeah, hundreds of faculty heard the chancellor "thinking aloud" about challenging to become an R1 designated research institution, FBS athletics and a driving economic force in East Greensboro. They definitely cheered aloud for all three.

But, it was just thinking aloud.  ::)

Stop being afraid to be great. His thinking out loud is the start of being great.
Where was this advice when WSSU tucked their their tail and ran away from the meac?   pot....kettle.... Lol...

We wasn't even close to being a true DIAA school in terms of anything. At the time our up side for being a DIAA is know where near where A&T's upside is now. There potential is greater than ours right now. We are barley a DII school. But don't get me wrong... I love my Rams. We were winning at our level, but at a cost we couldn't consistently sustain. A&T, with the proper time and growth can make this happen. They do need to approach a diverse 20,000 students to do so. I don't have a problem with one of our schools doing great things if they can.
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Ram55 - right now you can't make that move with what you have. However, planning long tern for what was needed to do so is. WSSU could have look a lot different If you approach a diverse population of students and maintain your success at your current level. It would be a natural move to move up. This would be similar to what Ala. State did when they moved up. Right now, schools on that level would destroy ya'll, but maybe not in 15 years with proper planning. It has to start somewhere if its ever going to happen....again.

Every school should not be looking to move up... WSSU is one of those schools. There are plenty of HBCUs at the FCS level. And right now, A&T is the most competitive of those schools. They are also our largest school with a still growing student population. Their campus is DI level with research and other major things happening. So stop comparing us to A&T when it comes to potential for growth and moving up. We have already shown that we can't make that move... but we did try. I would also say that only about three or four HBCUs should be on the FCS level. Tell me one other HBCU that could have beaten East Carolina University, or Jacksonville State... surely not Southern. They are on a nother level that your school and you can't stand their success. I don't really care for them either when it comes to sports, but they are really good right now. So give them their props... they have earned it.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: bluedog on August 22, 2019, 09:52:37 AM
Long term strategic planning. Not gonna happen before year 2035....if approved.Folks gotta stop leaking info from wish lists and pushing it out as facts.

Personally I'd like to see us stay the course. Takes to much $$ to move up.By the time we're ready it would require a $35 million budget.
^^^^^^^^^
What he said !!!!

Someone heard our Chancellor "thinking out loud" and ran with it.We ain't goin nowhere "Bad Boys For Life" .

Yeah, hundreds of faculty heard the chancellor "thinking aloud" about challenging to become an R1 designated research institution, FBS athletics and a driving economic force in East Greensboro. They definitely cheered aloud for all three.

But, it was just thinking aloud.  ::)

Stop being afraid to be great. His thinking out loud is the start of being great.
Where was this advice when WSSU tucked their their tail and ran away from the meac?   pot....kettle.... Lol...

We wasn't even close to being a true DIAA school in terms of anything. At the time our up side for being a DIAA is know where near where A&T's upside is now. There potential is greater than ours right now. We are barley a DII school. But don't get me wrong... I love my Rams. We were winning at our level, but at a cost we couldn't consistently sustain. A&T, with the proper time and growth can make this happen. They do need to approach a diverse 20,000 students to do so. I don't have a problem with one of our schools doing great things if they can.
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Ram55 - right now you can't make that move with what you have. However, planning long tern for what was needed to do so is. WSSU could have look a lot different If you approach a diverse population of students and maintain your success at your current level. It would be a natural move to move up. This would be similar to what Ala. State did when they moved up. Right now, schools on that level would destroy ya'll, but maybe not in 15 years with proper planning. It has to start somewhere if its ever going to happen....again.

Every school should not be looking to move up... WSSU is one of those schools. There are plenty of HBCUs at the FCS level. And right now, A&T is the most competitive of those schools. They are also our largest school with a still growing student population. Their campus is DI level with research and other major things happening. So stop comparing us to A&T when it comes to potential for growth and moving up. We have already shown that we can't make that move... but we did try. I would also say that only about three or four HBCUs should be on the FCS level. Tell me one other HBCU that could have beaten East Carolina University, or Jacksonville State... surely not Southern. They are on a nother level that your school and you can't stand their success. I don't really care for them either when it comes to sports, but they are really good right now. So give them their props... they have earned it.  :shrug:
Dude are you really going to sit on your a**  and attempt to spin my question to you. About where was all this energy when WSSU ran away from the meac. Into not giving A&T it's props. Are you really going to try that?
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Stop being afraid to be great. Practice what you preach

Dude all you do is sit back and pop off about everybody else business, but make excuses for your own short comings. You're like the girlfriend that's always giving advice about men, but can't keep one herself.
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Ram55 on August 22, 2019, 12:56:33 PM
Long term strategic planning. Not gonna happen before year 2035....if approved.Folks gotta stop leaking info from wish lists and pushing it out as facts.

Personally I'd like to see us stay the course. Takes to much $$ to move up.By the time we're ready it would require a $35 million budget.
^^^^^^^^^
What he said !!!!

Someone heard our Chancellor "thinking out loud" and ran with it.We ain't goin nowhere "Bad Boys For Life" .

Yeah, hundreds of faculty heard the chancellor "thinking aloud" about challenging to become an R1 designated research institution, FBS athletics and a driving economic force in East Greensboro. They definitely cheered aloud for all three.

But, it was just thinking aloud.  ::)

Stop being afraid to be great. His thinking out loud is the start of being great.
Where was this advice when WSSU tucked their their tail and ran away from the meac?   pot....kettle.... Lol...

We wasn't even close to being a true DIAA school in terms of anything. At the time our up side for being a DIAA is know where near where A&T's upside is now. There potential is greater than ours right now. We are barley a DII school. But don't get me wrong... I love my Rams. We were winning at our level, but at a cost we couldn't consistently sustain. A&T, with the proper time and growth can make this happen. They do need to approach a diverse 20,000 students to do so. I don't have a problem with one of our schools doing great things if they can.
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Ram55 - right now you can't make that move with what you have. However, planning long tern for what was needed to do so is. WSSU could have look a lot different If you approach a diverse population of students and maintain your success at your current level. It would be a natural move to move up. This would be similar to what Ala. State did when they moved up. Right now, schools on that level would destroy ya'll, but maybe not in 15 years with proper planning. It has to start somewhere if its ever going to happen....again.

Every school should not be looking to move up... WSSU is one of those schools. There are plenty of HBCUs at the FCS level. And right now, A&T is the most competitive of those schools. They are also our largest school with a still growing student population. Their campus is DI level with research and other major things happening. So stop comparing us to A&T when it comes to potential for growth and moving up. We have already shown that we can't make that move... but we did try. I would also say that only about three or four HBCUs should be on the FCS level. Tell me one other HBCU that could have beaten East Carolina University, or Jacksonville State... surely not Southern. They are on a nother level that your school and you can't stand their success. I don't really care for them either when it comes to sports, but they are really good right now. So give them their props... they have earned it.  :shrug:
Dude are you really going to sit on your a**  and attempt to spin my question to you. About where was all this energy when WSSU ran away from the meac. Into not giving A&T it's props. Are you really going to try that?
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Stop being afraid to be great. Practice what you preach

Dude all you do is sit back and pop off about everybody else business, but make excuses for your own short comings. You're like the girlfriend that's always giving advice about men, but can't keep one herself.

Like you being the girl that won't admit when another girlfriend is prettier... even when everyone is telling you she is. Stop hating on those Aggies. My school (WSSU) is ranked the number one public HBCU in the country this year by Money Magazine, so we don't have the short comings you speak of. We just don't have the money to pretend to be something we're not. We have proved that we can be competitive with schools on our level... but have Southern?  Hell no!!!  :lol:
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: bluedog on August 22, 2019, 01:05:00 PM


Long term strategic planning. Not gonna happen before year 2035....if approved.Folks gotta stop leaking info from wish lists and pushing it out as facts.

Personally I'd like to see us stay the course. Takes to much $$ to move up.By the time we're ready it would require a $35 million budget.
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What he said !!!!

Someone heard our Chancellor "thinking out loud" and ran with it.We ain't goin nowhere "Bad Boys For Life" .

Yeah, hundreds of faculty heard the chancellor "thinking aloud" about challenging to become an R1 designated research institution, FBS athletics and a driving economic force in East Greensboro. They definitely cheered aloud for all three.

But, it was just thinking aloud.  ::)

Stop being afraid to be great. His thinking out loud is the start of being great.
Where was this advice when WSSU tucked their their tail and ran away from the meac?   pot....kettle.... Lol...

We wasn't even close to being a true DIAA school in terms of anything. At the time our up side for being a DIAA is know where near where A&T's upside is now. There potential is greater than ours right now. We are barley a DII school. But don't get me wrong... I love my Rams. We were winning at our level, but at a cost we couldn't consistently sustain. A&T, with the proper time and growth can make this happen. They do need to approach a diverse 20,000 students to do so. I don't have a problem with one of our schools doing great things if they can.
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Ram55 - right now you can't make that move with what you have. However, planning long tern for what was needed to do so is. WSSU could have look a lot different If you approach a diverse population of students and maintain your success at your current level. It would be a natural move to move up. This would be similar to what Ala. State did when they moved up. Right now, schools on that level would destroy ya'll, but maybe not in 15 years with proper planning. It has to start somewhere if its ever going to happen....again.

Every school should not be looking to move up... WSSU is one of those schools. There are plenty of HBCUs at the FCS level. And right now, A&T is the most competitive of those schools. They are also our largest school with a still growing student population. Their campus is DI level with research and other major things happening. So stop comparing us to A&T when it comes to potential for growth and moving up. We have already shown that we can't make that move... but we did try. I would also say that only about three or four HBCUs should be on the FCS level. Tell me one other HBCU that could have beaten East Carolina University, or Jacksonville State... surely not Southern. They are on a nother level that your school and you can't stand their success. I don't really care for them either when it comes to sports, but they are really good right now. So give them their props... they have earned it.  :shrug:
Dude are you really going to sit on your a**  and attempt to spin my question to you. About where was all this energy when WSSU ran away from the meac. Into not giving A&T it's props. Are you really going to try that?
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Stop being afraid to be great. Practice what you preach

Dude all you do is sit back and pop off about everybody else business, but make excuses for your own short comings. You're like the girlfriend that's always giving advice about men, but can't keep one herself.

Like you being the girl that won't admit when another girlfriend is prettier... even when everyone is telling you she is. Stop hating on those Aggies. My school (WSSU) is ranked the number one public HBCU in the country this year by Money Magazine, so we don't have the short comings you speak of. We just don't have the money to pretend to be something we're not. We have proved that we can be competitive with schools on our level... but have Southern?  Hell no!!! 

My question ain't got nothing to do with being competitive on your level. So since you have seem to gotten lost I'll ask again. WHERE WAS ALL THIS ENERGY WHEN WSSU TUCKED ITS TAIL AND RAN AWAY FROM THE MEAC?

Stop being afraid to be great. Practice what you preach
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Ram55 on August 22, 2019, 01:06:39 PM


Long term strategic planning. Not gonna happen before year 2035....if approved.Folks gotta stop leaking info from wish lists and pushing it out as facts.

Personally I'd like to see us stay the course. Takes to much $$ to move up.By the time we're ready it would require a $35 million budget.
^^^^^^^^^
What he said !!!!

Someone heard our Chancellor "thinking out loud" and ran with it.We ain't goin nowhere "Bad Boys For Life" .

Yeah, hundreds of faculty heard the chancellor "thinking aloud" about challenging to become an R1 designated research institution, FBS athletics and a driving economic force in East Greensboro. They definitely cheered aloud for all three.

But, it was just thinking aloud.  ::)

Stop being afraid to be great. His thinking out loud is the start of being great.
Where was this advice when WSSU tucked their their tail and ran away from the meac?   pot....kettle.... Lol...

We wasn't even close to being a true DIAA school in terms of anything. At the time our up side for being a DIAA is know where near where A&T's upside is now. There potential is greater than ours right now. We are barley a DII school. But don't get me wrong... I love my Rams. We were winning at our level, but at a cost we couldn't consistently sustain. A&T, with the proper time and growth can make this happen. They do need to approach a diverse 20,000 students to do so. I don't have a problem with one of our schools doing great things if they can.
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Ram55 - right now you can't make that move with what you have. However, planning long tern for what was needed to do so is. WSSU could have look a lot different If you approach a diverse population of students and maintain your success at your current level. It would be a natural move to move up. This would be similar to what Ala. State did when they moved up. Right now, schools on that level would destroy ya'll, but maybe not in 15 years with proper planning. It has to start somewhere if its ever going to happen....again.

Every school should not be looking to move up... WSSU is one of those schools. There are plenty of HBCUs at the FCS level. And right now, A&T is the most competitive of those schools. They are also our largest school with a still growing student population. Their campus is DI level with research and other major things happening. So stop comparing us to A&T when it comes to potential for growth and moving up. We have already shown that we can't make that move... but we did try. I would also say that only about three or four HBCUs should be on the FCS level. Tell me one other HBCU that could have beaten East Carolina University, or Jacksonville State... surely not Southern. They are on a nother level that your school and you can't stand their success. I don't really care for them either when it comes to sports, but they are really good right now. So give them their props... they have earned it.  :shrug:
Dude are you really going to sit on your a**  and attempt to spin my question to you. About where was all this energy when WSSU ran away from the meac. Into not giving A&T it's props. Are you really going to try that?
Quote
Stop being afraid to be great. Practice what you preach

Dude all you do is sit back and pop off about everybody else business, but make excuses for your own short comings. You're like the girlfriend that's always giving advice about men, but can't keep one herself.

Like you being the girl that won't admit when another girlfriend is prettier... even when everyone is telling you she is. Stop hating on those Aggies. My school (WSSU) is ranked the number one public HBCU in the country this year by Money Magazine, so we don't have the short comings you speak of. We just don't have the money to pretend to be something we're not. We have proved that we can be competitive with schools on our level... but have Southern?  Hell no!!! 

My question ain't got nothing to do with being competitive on your level. So since you have seem to gotten lost I'll ask again. WHERE WAS ALL THIS ENERGY WHEN WSSU TUCKED ITS TAIL AND RAN AWAY FROM THE MEAC?

Stop being afraid to be great. Practice what you preach

Again negro... we don't have the money to pretend to be FCS. And neither do you.
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: bluedog on August 22, 2019, 01:41:05 PM


Again negro... we don't have the money to pretend to be FCS. And neither do you.
  But yet you're always in here trying to tell everybody else how to spend theirs.

Btw we've been FCS for over 4 decades. Smh..... stop embarrassing WSSU man.

Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Ram55 on August 22, 2019, 02:43:07 PM


Again negro... we don't have the money to pretend to be FCS. And neither do you.
  But yet you're always in here trying to tell everybody else how to spend theirs.

Btw we've been FCS for over 4 decades. Smh..... stop embarrassing WSSU man.

You have been in the Sub FCS for four decades. Do you really think that Southern is on par with the other FCS schools? Who have you beaten outside of your conference?
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Ram55 on August 22, 2019, 02:46:40 PM


Again negro... we don't have the money to pretend to be FCS. And neither do you.
  But yet you're always in here trying to tell everybody else how to spend theirs.

Btw we've been FCS for over 4 decades. Smh..... stop embarrassing WSSU man.

Lets stop insulting each other brother. :kisses:
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Jay_Thomas on August 22, 2019, 03:14:47 PM
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Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: Oldschoolram on August 22, 2019, 03:45:22 PM
Long term strategic planning. Not gonna happen before year 2035....if approved.Folks gotta stop leaking info from wish lists and pushing it out as facts.

Personally I'd like to see us stay the course. Takes to much $$ to move up.By the time we're ready it would require a $35 million budget.
^^^^^^^^^
What he said !!!!

Someone heard our Chancellor "thinking out loud" and ran with it.We ain't goin nowhere "Bad Boys For Life" .

Yeah, hundreds of faculty heard the chancellor "thinking aloud" about challenging to become an R1 designated research institution, FBS athletics and a driving economic force in East Greensboro. They definitely cheered aloud for all three.

But, it was just thinking aloud.  ::)

Stop being afraid to be great. His thinking out loud is the start of being great.
Where was this advice when WSSU tucked their their tail and ran away from the meac?   pot....kettle.... Lol...

One more time!!!!  It was the Jackass chancellor in place at the time!  LAZY is being kind.
Title: Re: Report: North Carolina A&T Could Be Considering Move To FBS
Post by: bluedog on August 22, 2019, 05:59:47 PM
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You have been in the Sub FCS for four decades. Do you really think that Southern is on par with the other FCS schools? Who have you beaten outside of your conference?

  Still trying to make your ridiculous attempt at giving A&T advice, about Southern huh.   If you were 1/3 as knowledgeable about HBCU/FCS  football. You wouldn't ask such and ignorant question.   Btw there no such thing as Sub FCS. Again stop embarrassing WSSU.