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Title: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: BrotherWiregrass on July 12, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
Why do pastors hold so much power in the black community?


I would really like to know...
Title: Re: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: y04185 on July 12, 2019, 09:57:08 PM
Why do pastors hold so much power in the black community?


I would really like to know...

Blacks are gullible.  They don't question pastors.  They will persecute anyone that who does.  That mentality spills over into other areas. 

I know Blacks that can't even buy furniture or a vehicle without their pastor giving them the okay.  It makes no sense. 
Title: Re: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: TSU/BAMA on July 12, 2019, 10:52:53 PM


Blacks are gullible.  They don't question pastors.  They will persecute anyone that who does.  That mentality spills over into other areas. 

I know Blacks that can't even buy furniture or a vehicle without their pastor giving them the okay.  It makes no sense.

You know y04185, I am not debating you because debating you and oldsport is a total waste of time. But I will say this, you need to watch People Magazine Investigates: Cults. It is on IDTV. Its about the untold stories of religious cult leaders who use mind control, sex, and violence to manipulate and dominate their followers. 98% of these "prophets" are white. I know you probably never will watch that show, but you should. Maybe then, you would not make stupid statement like you just made. But then on the other hand, you probably still would make stupid statements.
Title: Re: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: FunCkMaster on July 12, 2019, 11:25:00 PM
Why do pastors hold so much power in the black community?


I would really like to know...

Must be a deep South thing, or a COGIC or Baptist or Holy Roller thing. :shrug:

Lemme tell you something. I am a grown arse man. The day a Pastor tells me what to do, what to buy what to wear...Sheeeeeeeeeeee... ::)...Naw bro. I don't know who YOU know. I am AME. Any pastor I may have had leads the flock, suggest how folk should live in a good wholesome way, provides counseling, etc. etc. But I think they pretty much know they ain't gonna be TELLIN' people what furniture to buy, what home to buy, car to buy etc. etc. To be honest that sounds crazy.

It all depends on what YOU as a member allow. I attend church to get spiritually refueled. I also play drums at a church. It isn't my home church, but I play there every Sunday because I enjoy playing drums, and I enjoy the brotherhood-sisterhood. Ain't no clergy telling people what to do like that. They lead spiritually.

 I moved outta my mom and dads house at 23 years of age basically, and started callin' my shots the day I received my bachelors degree at 22... So I been pretty much independent for 29 years.I don't need nobody, including clergy, to TELL me what to do.

Lord help the people you know where you live TSU/BAMA.... :tiptoe: :tiptoe:
Title: Re: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: Maroon and Gray on July 12, 2019, 11:29:22 PM
Why do pastors hold so much power in the black community?


I would really like to know...

Blacks are gullible.  They don't question pastors.  They will persecute anyone that who does.  That mentality spills over into other areas. 

I know Blacks that can't even buy furniture or a vehicle without their pastor giving them the okay.  It makes no sense. 

Just because you might know 2, 3  people that might be that insecure then conflating it to the general population of black people is ridiculous.

I know two black men who like to denigrate their own kind, but exhibit the same characteristics themselves.  For example posting talking points of right-wing extremists (handlers), will defend a white person over a black person (self hatred).  Love them some trump even after he has clearly shown himself to be threat to this country (traitors).
Title: Re: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: FunCkMaster on July 12, 2019, 11:31:33 PM
Why do pastors hold so much power in the black community?


I would really like to know...

Blacks are gullible.  They don't question pastors.  They will persecute anyone that who does.  That mentality spills over into other areas. 

I know Blacks that can't even buy furniture or a vehicle without their pastor giving them the okay.  It makes no sense. 

Just because you might know 2, 3  people that might be that insecure then conflating it to the general population of black people is ridiculous.

I know two black men who like to denigrate their own kind, but exhibit the same characteristics themselves.  For example posting talking points of right-wing extremists (handlers), will defend a white person over a black person (self hatred).  Love them some trump even after he has clearly shown himself to be threat to this country (traitors).

Maaaaaaaaan look. The coonery with these two people is downright ASTOUNDING! :brickwall: :brickwall: It just never stops.
Title: Re: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: Onnidan Webmaster on July 12, 2019, 11:37:11 PM
Historically, the church has been a powerful institution in the Black community and the leader of the church has an implied connection to God.

Therefore pastors have an assumed authority and some folk will follow them anywhere. :shrug:
Title: Re: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: y04185 on July 13, 2019, 12:02:48 AM


Blacks are gullible.  They don't question pastors.  They will persecute anyone that who does.  That mentality spills over into other areas. 

I know Blacks that can't even buy furniture or a vehicle without their pastor giving them the okay.  It makes no sense.

You know y04185, I am not debating you because debating you and oldsport is a total waste of time. But I will say this, you need to watch People Magazine Investigates: Cults. It is on IDTV. Its about the untold stories of religious cult leaders who use mind control, sex, and violence to manipulate and dominate their followers. 98% of these "prophets" are white. I know you probably never will watch that show, but you should. Maybe then, you would not make stupid statement like you just made. But then on the other hand, you probably still would make stupid statements.

The one making a stupid comment is you.  This isn't about white people.  Your love for white people is disturbing. 

Too bad you couldn't keep it Black.  You've been trained well.  This is about Black pastors.  Maybe you can explain how I disrespected my pastor when I was asked what church I attended.  I only gave the name of the church.  I was told I disrespected my pastor by not mentioning his name. 
Title: Re: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: Capler on July 13, 2019, 12:43:30 AM
Historically, the church has been a powerful institution in the Black community and the leader of the church has an implied connection to God.

Therefore pastors have an assumed authority and some folk will follow them anywhere. :shrug:

Thank you OW, they are not going to argue with you. It is not only in the black community but this is the case with mankind in general. We seek a  power that is greater than us, something that we can submit to. Most rulers use this  to command a certain amount of control over people.

Despite what some said in the previous replies, if you follow  any type of organized religion, you are submitting to  it, and of course you are submitting to the people who are the purveyors of that doctrine.  I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that, but we would be remiss to think that clergy has no influence over people.   
Title: Re: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: soflorattler on July 13, 2019, 07:37:48 AM
Historically, the church has been a powerful institution in the Black community and the leader of the church has an implied connection to God.

Therefore pastors have an assumed authority and some folk will follow them anywhere. :shrug:

And, many so-called pastors abuse that perceived power manipulating the very people they're supposed to be leading.
Title: Re: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: Maroon and Gray on July 13, 2019, 10:40:33 AM


Blacks are gullible.  They don't question pastors.  They will persecute anyone that who does.  That mentality spills over into other areas. 

I know Blacks that can't even buy furniture or a vehicle without their pastor giving them the okay.  It makes no sense.

You know y04185, I am not debating you because debating you and oldsport is a total waste of time. But I will say this, you need to watch People Magazine Investigates: Cults. It is on IDTV. Its about the untold stories of religious cult leaders who use mind control, sex, and violence to manipulate and dominate their followers. 98% of these "prophets" are white. I know you probably never will watch that show, but you should. Maybe then, you would not make stupid statement like you just made. But then on the other hand, you probably still would make stupid statements.

The one making a stupid comment is you.  This isn't about white people.  Your love for white people is disturbing. 

Too bad you couldn't keep it Black.  You've been trained well.  This is about Black pastors.  Maybe you can explain how I disrespected my pastor when I was asked what church I attended.  I only gave the name of the church.  I was told I disrespected my pastor by not mentioning his name. 

You personally must draw the most extreme situations known to man.

Why someone would tell you you disrespected the pastor is beyond belief.  Not calling you a liar but unless I witnessed these situations I’m calling BS.

I see you and your alter ego are now posting in the same topics.  Is this what talking to yourself on the internet looks like?
Title: Re: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: aggiejazz on July 13, 2019, 01:26:12 PM
I am careful not to paint all black pastors and churches with the same brush.  Being a preacher or pastor was always a job/career that held status in the black community which in more cases than we like leads to blind allegiance by folks which leads to those folks being con out of their hard earnings.  But all folks regardless of their ethnic group spend money on spirituality "merchandise" of hope.

Pastors for the most part were/are the only black community leaders that whites recognized and will only communicate through them.  After every modern day riot/uprising, white municipal officials will round the preachers and put them on local TV to ask for calm and to pacify the agitated blacks.

I also see that a lot of our folks need the church because the church is family and sometimes the only family they have.   

 
Title: Re: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: y04185 on July 13, 2019, 04:13:40 PM
Historically, the church has been a powerful institution in the Black community and the leader of the church has an implied connection to God.

Therefore pastors have an assumed authority and some folk will follow them anywhere. :shrug:

And, many so-called pastors abuse that perceived power manipulating the very people they're supposed to be leading.

I concur.
Title: Re: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: CU1994 on July 13, 2019, 07:53:56 PM
I don’t think it’s a black thing but a religion thing and not just Christianity. That’s the reason Catholic Priests were allowed to do what they did.
Title: Re: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: y04185 on July 13, 2019, 09:40:56 PM
I don’t think it’s a black thing but a religion thing and not just Christianity. That’s the reason Catholic Priests were allowed to do what they did.

Are you saying catholics are not christians?
Title: Re: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: eagle pride on July 13, 2019, 10:54:23 PM
Pastors may rise to power in a community because they are willing to serve the community.  Speaking as a pastor, it is not my desire to control people for my benefit.  My goal is to preach the gospel of Jesus and serve my community through love and support and teaching others to be concerned about their fellowman.  Sometimes we may confuse power with respect. 
Title: Re: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: CU1994 on July 14, 2019, 07:33:54 AM
I don’t think it’s a black thing but a religion thing and not just Christianity. That’s the reason Catholic Priests were allowed to do what they did.

Are you saying catholics are not christians?

 No, I used that as an example to show it’s not just the black community. An Imam is an example outside of Christianity.
Title: Re: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: y04185 on July 14, 2019, 07:36:25 AM
I don’t think it’s a black thing but a religion thing and not just Christianity. That’s the reason Catholic Priests were allowed to do what they did.

Are you saying catholics are not christians?

 No, I used that as an example to show it’s not just the black community. An Imam is an example outside of Christianity.

As usual, you chose a piss poor example.
Title: Re: A curious question for the people on board?
Post by: CU1994 on July 14, 2019, 09:35:12 AM
I don’t think it’s a black thing but a religion thing and not just Christianity. That’s the reason Catholic Priests were allowed to do what they did.

Are you saying catholics are not christians?

 No, I used that as an example to show it’s not just the black community. An Imam is an example outside of Christianity.

As usual, you chose a piss poor example.

Prove it