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Title: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Que82 on June 14, 2019, 09:05:53 PM
https://heavy.com/news/2019/06/shocking-video-of-phoenix-cops-holding-black-family-at-gunpoint-over-1-doll/
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: y04185 on June 15, 2019, 05:20:34 AM
Only you would be shocked.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Wildman78 on June 15, 2019, 10:28:49 AM
Only you would be shocked.
::)

I guess the author of the article viewed the video as shocking because Que82 merely posted the title verbatim from the article.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: soflorattler on June 15, 2019, 12:22:28 PM
Only you would be shocked.
::)

I guess the author of the article viewed the video as shocking because Que82 merely posted the title verbatim from the article.  :shrug:

 :nono2: Some folks aren't bright enough to see that, one of who's on this thread.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Que82 on June 15, 2019, 08:04:47 PM
Only you would be shocked.
::)

I guess the author of the article viewed the video as shocking because Que82 merely posted the title verbatim from the article.  :shrug:

 :nono2: Some folks aren't bright enough to see that, one of who's on this thread.
:nod:  He's too busy trying to take pot shots. :lol:
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Capler on June 15, 2019, 08:13:44 PM
I swear, they will let anybody become a police officer.  That is not the way you handle a situation.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: y04185 on June 15, 2019, 08:29:22 PM
Only you would be shocked.
::)

I guess the author of the article viewed the video as shocking because Que82 merely posted the title verbatim from the article.  :shrug:


He found it shocking.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Maroon and Gray on June 15, 2019, 08:39:07 PM
Only you would be shocked.
::)

I guess the author of the article viewed the video as shocking because Que82 merely posted the title verbatim from the article.  :shrug:


He found it shocking.

It’s not shocking to you because that’s what you expect the police to do .... to Black people.

It’s also in your republican indoctrination.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Jay_Thomas on June 16, 2019, 10:56:17 AM
I swear, they will let anybody become a police officer.  That is not the way you handle a situation.



CLEARLY, Capler!!! And it seems to be proven week after week. Like many other fields of work, it isn't for everybody.  The added ULGY to this is that UNQUALIFIED police officers will get somebody killed OR they will kill somebody for absolutely nothing. Chit rolls down from the top so again, I blame your chiefs-of-police and your mayors of these cities where this crap continues to happen.  They do not discipline nor terminate these clowns which tells them "hey its ok, just don't leave witnesses" and the so-called GOOD cops who we see playing with kids, helping young men tie their ties for graduation, where are they when chit like this pops off?  WHY do THEY not speak up?  Because these motherphuckers are making you ALL look bad.

And again....I digress.    ::)


Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Que82 on June 16, 2019, 11:46:41 AM
Only you would be shocked.
::)

I guess the author of the article viewed the video as shocking because Que82 merely posted the title verbatim from the article.  :shrug:


He found it shocking.
PROVE IT!!

It also shows that when a trump supporter like Y is proven wrong he will double down on stupid instead of admitting he made a mistake.  :lol:
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Maroon and Gray on June 16, 2019, 11:54:39 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if these 'police' were found on those secret white supremacy websites where 'police' are members.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: eagle pride on June 16, 2019, 09:05:52 PM
And you wonder why black folks don't like or trust the police.  I hope they win their law suits. 
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Bison 4 Life on June 17, 2019, 09:25:14 AM
Even the mayor spoke out against them.But no legal action yet.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Wildman78 on June 17, 2019, 09:47:11 AM
Phoenix chief says police response to incident with 4-year-old is 'unacceptable'

Phoenix Police Chief Jeri Williams apologized for her department’s handling of an alleged shoplifting incident involving a 4-year-old girl and her parents, saying Sunday the confrontation that was captured on video was “unacceptable.”

“What we saw in that video isn’t in keeping with good policing,” Williams said in an interview with NBC affiliate KPNX. “This is not what should have happened in that circumstance.”

The child’s parents, Dravon Ames and Iesha Harper, filed notice of a $10 million claim last week over the incident, which occurred on May 29 after the couple said they realized their daughter had taken a doll from a dollar store.

Video showed officers appearing to push and kick a handcuffed man believed to be Ames and handcuffing Harper, who is pregnant, after an unidentified woman came to take care of the couples’ two young daughters.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/phoenix-chief-says-police-response-to-incident-with-4-year-old-is-unacceptable/ar-AACXWQe?ocid=ientp
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Jay_Thomas on June 17, 2019, 10:15:20 AM
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Williams said that the officers who appeared in the video were placed on desk duty. An internal investigation was looking at discrepancies between the police report that documented the incident and the cell phone video that showed the confrontation.

PAID DESK DUTY...MAYBE a PAID suspension but watch, I will be SHOCKED if the MFers will be TERMINATED!  That was just way over the freaking top. :no:



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On Saturday, Ames told Al Sharpton on MSNBC that he was glad the incident was caught on video by a bystander so people could see how he and his family were treated.


Yes, THANK GOD somebody videoed these traumatizing shenanigans. Otherwise, it would just be business as usual as they would have ended up sitting in jail...or at the freaking morgue.
  ::)


Chief SistaGirl, getcha folks in order, please and thanks!!!
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Jay_Thomas on June 17, 2019, 12:02:07 PM
::)  And in more police shenanigans:

Man killed after an alleged argument and attack on an off-duty officer in Costco was nonverbal, cousin say


 (CNN)The cousin of a man shot and killed by an off-duty police officer in a California Costco says his relative was nonverbal and couldn't have started the argument that allegedly led to the shooting, according to a report by the Los Angeles Times.

Police said the victim, identified by the Corona Police Department as 32-year-old Kenneth French of Riverside, assaulted an off-duty Los Angeles Police Department officer in an unprovoked attack before the shooting.
The officer, who was reportedly holding a young child while shopping with his family when French allegedly attacked him, shot and killed French and also shot two members of French's family, police said.

Corona police Lt. Jeff Edwards told reporters just after the incident that police believe the shooting resulted from an argument.


 :shrug:

(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190617012743-cali-costco-shooting-01-super-169.jpg)


https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/17/us/costco-shooting-questions/index.html
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: ‘87 Alum on June 17, 2019, 12:37:09 PM
JT-

When I first heard about the Costco shootingvin Cali,I commented to my wife:
1. Who da hell walk into Costco strapped?
2. I bet this jumped off over food samples...


Then they announced a police officer was involved and they couldn’t find a weapon onsite....then we knew the fix was being put in place....
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Jay_Thomas on June 17, 2019, 03:25:52 PM

2. I bet this jumped off over food samples...



 :lol:  WAYMENT...I CAN'T get past that right there!   :lmao:
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: VUU fan on June 17, 2019, 03:44:11 PM
Jay-Z's Roc Nation offers legal support to Phoenix family accusing police of excessive force

Quote
Team ROC has reached out to the family to provide legal support, call for termination of the police officers and "ensure the well-being of the children," said Didier Morais, a PR spokesperson for the organization.

Team ROC has secured high-profile attorney Alex Spiro to join the family's legal team pro-bono and plans on filing against one of the officers for child neglect, Morais said

full story here:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2019/06/15/jay-z-team-roc-aid-phoenix-family-accusing-police-excessive-force-over-doll/1464592001/
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Capler on June 17, 2019, 04:13:37 PM
I don't give a damn about what they allegedly stole from a five and dime store, you don't treat people like animals over a petty crime.  This is why store security don't try to restrain people. If they get hurt in the process, it will cost the store a whole lot more. The video in VUU's link above is heart breaking.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: VUU fan on June 17, 2019, 04:35:06 PM
I don't give a damn about what they allegedly stole from a five and dime store, you don't treat people like animals over a petty crime.  This is why store security don't try to restrain people. If they get hurt in the process, it will cost the store a whole lot more. The video in VUU's link above is heart breaking.

From my understanding no one from the store called the police. It was a customer in the store that "allegedly" saw what happen and made the call. If they were that concerned over a little dollar store doll baby, they should have reached out to the parents and let them know the little girl picked up the doll or notified the manager of the store.

But here we are once again.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Que82 on June 17, 2019, 05:13:14 PM
What about the drawers????  Didn't say the parents stole some?  Were they in the car?  They need to sue the person that called it in while they are at it.  :nod:

P.S. JT don't use the word "Shocked" with Y around.  :lol:
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Capler on June 18, 2019, 12:03:39 AM
OK, the couple was on with Don Lemon tonight and it was a hard interview to watch. The police also released the store video to show what actually happened. They and another lady were in the store waiting to check out. Apparently something happened with the checkout process and the lady in front of them threw her merchandise down and walked out. The family did the same but they did not leave the doll and underwear. With that said, the police action was not justified over $10 worth of merchandise.

At first when I heard they stole a doll and underwear, I felt sorry for them.  Anyone  stealing a toy for a child or underwear will get sympathy from me every time, but after seeing the video, knowing now that they were not stealing because there was a real need.... :tiptoe:

Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Jay_Thomas on June 18, 2019, 10:12:19 AM
  They need to sue the person that called it in while they are at it.  :nod:



they need to catch that MFer in the parking lot and whoop dat a$$ is what they need to do. Always some busybody yahoo calling the police on somebody and they responding as if it is 9/11 all over again.  ::)
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: ‘87 Alum on June 18, 2019, 10:17:58 AM
  They need to sue the person that called it in while they are at it.  :nod:



they need to catch that MFer in the parking lot and whoop dat a$$ is what they need to do. Always some busybody yahoo calling the police on somebody and they responding as if it is 9/11 all over again.  ::)

Reminiscent of the moron who called the cops in Beavercreek on John Crawford. That cretin I’m responsible for John’s murder by those cops. Never even faced a charge for that bogus call.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Bison 4 Life on June 18, 2019, 10:29:06 AM
Nothing about the case ,but how many children does a woman gives birth to before she becomes a fiancee? :tiptoe:

I may get groaned for this but here goes. Now I'm making some big a-- aSSumptions here. But some of our younger generation must not have gotten that talk.
I remember parents scolding children for  for touching or grabbing things. Children of course will be children but you can't even give the appearance of being accused.Youcan't say "F***It" and walk out with merchandise when the system goes dow.
Now I want them to collect every dime from the city and the cops fired or worse but lets not give them ANY reasons.


This maybe TMI but back when I shopped at brick and mortar stores I rarely took bags in stores when shopping at malls ,I wont take bags to my car and return to shop some more. Silly, yes but it worked for meBlacks are watching hard because in many cities there are booster rings that bum rush stores , grab and run out.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Neymar on June 18, 2019, 10:30:00 AM
Police were out of pocket for the way they acted
The mother was out of pocket for letting her daughter walk through a nasty dollar store with no shoes on.
The father should not have to steal underwear

America has to hold the L here :no: :no:
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: ‘87 Alum on June 18, 2019, 10:39:40 AM
Nothing about the case ,but how many children does a woman gives birth to before she becomes a fiancee? :tiptoe:

I may get groaned for this but here goes. Now I'm making some big a-- aSSumptions here. But some of our younger generation must not have gotten that talk.
I remember parents scolding children for  for touching or grabbing things. Children of course will be children but you can't even give the appearance of being accused.Youcan't say "F***It" and walk out with merchandise when the system goes dow.
Now I want them to collect every dime from the city and the cops fired or worse but lets not give them ANY reasons.


This maybe TMI but back when I shopped at brick and mortar stores I rarely took bags in stores when shopping at malls ,I wont take bags to my car and return to shop some more. Silly, yes but it worked for meBlacks are watching hard because in many cities there are booster rings that bum rush stores , grab and run out.

Bruh, on the real, I don’t know their personal situation regarding who fathered the kids or their engagement. From my perspective that’s tangential.

I’m with you though on walking out the store without paying for things. That was the catalyst for this entire exothermic reaction.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Bison 4 Life on June 18, 2019, 10:44:12 AM
I know one thing. The cellphone camera is probably one of the greatest inventions of the last thirty years. Its literally changed  the game when it comes to this sort of thing.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Que82 on June 18, 2019, 11:52:14 AM
I don't give a dayum how many kids they have, if they are engaged or married or what they stole.  The police don't act like this with white people who commits armed robbery or kills someone.  Please take that black folks need to do better shyt to another thread.  This bullshyt was uncalled for and that's the bottom line. B4L statement is paramount to looking at the police kill an unarmed black and saying what about black on black crime in Chicago.  Take that back into the shadows. ::)
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Jay_Thomas on June 18, 2019, 12:25:40 PM
Que82, agreeing 100% with ya, bruh! 
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Bison 4 Life on June 18, 2019, 12:58:53 PM
I don't give a dayum how many kids they have, if they are engaged or married or what they stole.  The police don't act like this with white people who commits armed robbery or kills someone.  Please take that black folks need to do better shyt to another thread.  This bullshyt was uncalled for and that's the bottom line. B4L statement is paramount to looking at the police kill an unarmed black and saying what about black on black crime in Chicago.  Take that back into the shadows. ::)

I agree with you and stated my position
That being said.Venting on a website wont do shite.hate to break it you.


Seems like this has increased even with more scrutiny from social media and black folks stil getting henmed up and killed by the hundreds by cops .So obviously the current model aint working.
So whats the solution outside of armed conflict?
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Capler on June 18, 2019, 01:51:36 PM
There are two separate issues here and they both should stand on their own merits.

1) They walked out without paying, because somebody got mad at the cashier. You can't do that. They should be held accountable for this.

2) Police behavior. That was totally uncalled for. They were not a threat, and there were small kids involved. Everything about the stop was wrong and the cops should be fired after an internal review.

No way  should anyone try to connect the two situations, other than the fact that the family was involved in both cases.

This is what made the Don Lemon interview so difficult to watch. Personally I feel they should not have do it. Don was very respectful and tired to keep the interview on the police actions, but there was no way he could avoid the shoplifting in the video the police provided. Their only response was, 'we can't talk about that'.  Many people are going to attempt to use the shoplifitng to justify the actions of the police. 
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Neymar on June 18, 2019, 01:59:10 PM
There are two separate issue here and they both should stand on their own merits.

1) They walked out without paying, because somebody got mad at the cashier. You can't do that. They should be held accountable for this.

2) Police behavior. That was totally uncalled for. They were not a threat, and there were small kids involved. Everything about the stop was wrong and the cops should be fired after an internal review.

No way  should anyone try to connect the two situations, other than the fact that the family was involved in both cases.

This is what made the Don Lemon interview so difficult to watch. Personally I feel they should not have do it. Don was very respectful and tired to keep the interview on the police actions, but there was no way he could avoid the shoplifting in the video the police provided. Their only response was, 'we can't talk about that'.  Many people are going to attempt to use the shoplifitng to justify the actions of the police.

Cap how do you know they werent a threat? How would the police know that?
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Que82 on June 18, 2019, 04:35:28 PM
I don't give a dayum how many kids they have, if they are engaged or married or what they stole.  The police don't act like this with white people who commits armed robbery or kills someone.  Please take that black folks need to do better shyt to another thread.  This bullshyt was uncalled for and that's the bottom line. B4L statement is paramount to looking at the police kill an unarmed black and saying what about black on black crime in Chicago.  Take that back into the shadows. ::)

I agree with you and stated my position
That being said.Venting on a website wont do shite.hate to break it you.


Seems like this has increased even with more scrutiny from social media and black folks stil getting henmed up and killed by the hundreds by cops .So obviously the current model aint working.
So whats the solution outside of armed conflict?
Please tell us exactly how your comment about about "number of children before becoming a fiance" and your other comment furthers a solution for what the police did????  That shyt was petty as heyal even for you.  When more folks focus on our treatment by police and push our legislators/government heads to take action rather than finding fault in the victims then some progress may be made.  However as long as we have crabbish comments like those you made nothing will ever happen because the focus is put on the wrong thing.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Sierra on June 18, 2019, 05:24:29 PM
There are two separate issue here and they both should stand on their own merits.

1) They walked out without paying, because somebody got mad at the cashier. You can't do that. They should be held accountable for this.

2) Police behavior. That was totally uncalled for. They were not a threat, and there were small kids involved. Everything about the stop was wrong and the cops should be fired after an internal review.

No way  should anyone try to connect the two situations, other than the fact that the family was involved in both cases.

This is what made the Don Lemon interview so difficult to watch. Personally I feel they should not have do it. Don was very respectful and tired to keep the interview on the police actions, but there was no way he could avoid the shoplifting in the video the police provided. Their only response was, 'we can't talk about that'.  Many people are going to attempt to use the shoplifitng to justify the actions of the police.

^^^ this solidifies my observation of this matter. The officers were notified of a shoplifting, they inappropriately responded and by all standards did not handle the incident, I'm sure according to the departmental SOP.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Capler on June 18, 2019, 05:28:20 PM
There are two separate issue here and they both should stand on their own merits.

1) They walked out without paying, because somebody got mad at the cashier. You can't do that. They should be held accountable for this.

2) Police behavior. That was totally uncalled for. They were not a threat, and there were small kids involved. Everything about the stop was wrong and the cops should be fired after an internal review.

No way  should anyone try to connect the two situations, other than the fact that the family was involved in both cases.

This is what made the Don Lemon interview so difficult to watch. Personally I feel they should not have do it. Don was very respectful and tired to keep the interview on the police actions, but there was no way he could avoid the shoplifting in the video the police provided. Their only response was, 'we can't talk about that'.  Many people are going to attempt to use the shoplifitng to justify the actions of the police.

Cap how do you know they werent a threat? How would the police know that?

Based on your previous post, the couple was a threat because they are black.  :shrug: White women approaching me on the side walk will cross the street because I'm prone to snatch her purse. White women are more beautiful because that is what you insist on believing.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Que82 on June 18, 2019, 06:01:30 PM
There are two separate issue here and they both should stand on their own merits.

1) They walked out without paying, because somebody got mad at the cashier. You can't do that. They should be held accountable for this.

2) Police behavior. That was totally uncalled for. They were not a threat, and there were small kids involved. Everything about the stop was wrong and the cops should be fired after an internal review.

No way  should anyone try to connect the two situations, other than the fact that the family was involved in both cases.

This is what made the Don Lemon interview so difficult to watch. Personally I feel they should not have do it. Don was very respectful and tired to keep the interview on the police actions, but there was no way he could avoid the shoplifting in the video the police provided. Their only response was, 'we can't talk about that'.  Many people are going to attempt to use the shoplifitng to justify the actions of the police.

Cap how do you know they werent a threat? How would the police know that?
Those children in the car were lethal weapons and they committed felony shoplifting from a dollar store.   :crazy: Y'all really can come up with some stupid shyt. The bullshyt kept going even when they were out of the car so I guess they were dangerously black.  ::) :brickwall:
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Neymar on June 18, 2019, 07:52:18 PM
There are two separate issue here and they both should stand on their own merits.

1) They walked out without paying, because somebody got mad at the cashier. You can't do that. They should be held accountable for this.

2) Police behavior. That was totally uncalled for. They were not a threat, and there were small kids involved. Everything about the stop was wrong and the cops should be fired after an internal review.

No way  should anyone try to connect the two situations, other than the fact that the family was involved in both cases.

This is what made the Don Lemon interview so difficult to watch. Personally I feel they should not have do it. Don was very respectful and tired to keep the interview on the police actions, but there was no way he could avoid the shoplifting in the video the police provided. Their only response was, 'we can't talk about that'.  Many people are going to attempt to use the shoplifitng to justify the actions of the police.

Cap how do you know they werent a threat? How would the police know that?

Based on your previous post, the couple was a threat because they are black.  :shrug: White women approaching me on the side walk will cross the street because I'm prone to snatch her purse. White women are more beautiful because that is what you insist on believing.

I believe anybody desperate enough to jack underwear from a dollar store is a potential threat to anybody. Once again, how do you KNOW he wasnt a threat?
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Capler on June 19, 2019, 12:37:02 AM
There are two separate issue here and they both should stand on their own merits.

1) They walked out without paying, because somebody got mad at the cashier. You can't do that. They should be held accountable for this.

2) Police behavior. That was totally uncalled for. They were not a threat, and there were small kids involved. Everything about the stop was wrong and the cops should be fired after an internal review.

No way  should anyone try to connect the two situations, other than the fact that the family was involved in both cases.

This is what made the Don Lemon interview so difficult to watch. Personally I feel they should not have do it. Don was very respectful and tired to keep the interview on the police actions, but there was no way he could avoid the shoplifting in the video the police provided. Their only response was, 'we can't talk about that'.  Many people are going to attempt to use the shoplifitng to justify the actions of the police.

Cap how do you know they werent a threat? How would the police know that?

Based on your previous post, the couple was a threat because they are black.  :shrug: White women approaching me on the side walk will cross the street because I'm prone to snatch her purse. White women are more beautiful because that is what you insist on believing.

I believe anybody desperate enough to jack underwear from a dollar store is a potential threat to anybody. Once again, how do you KNOW he wasnt a threat?

Stop with the rhetorical questions.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Que82 on June 19, 2019, 07:32:13 AM
There are two separate issue here and they both should stand on their own merits.

1) They walked out without paying, because somebody got mad at the cashier. You can't do that. They should be held accountable for this.

2) Police behavior. That was totally uncalled for. They were not a threat, and there were small kids involved. Everything about the stop was wrong and the cops should be fired after an internal review.

No way  should anyone try to connect the two situations, other than the fact that the family was involved in both cases.

This is what made the Don Lemon interview so difficult to watch. Personally I feel they should not have do it. Don was very respectful and tired to keep the interview on the police actions, but there was no way he could avoid the shoplifting in the video the police provided. Their only response was, 'we can't talk about that'.  Many people are going to attempt to use the shoplifitng to justify the actions of the police.

Cap how do you know they werent a threat? How would the police know that?

Based on your previous post, the couple was a threat because they are black.  :shrug: White women approaching me on the side walk will cross the street because I'm prone to snatch her purse. White women are more beautiful because that is what you insist on believing.

I believe anybody desperate enough to jack underwear from a dollar store is a potential threat to anybody. Once again, how do you KNOW he wasnt a threat?
This is probably in your top 5 dumbass posts and Lord knows you have plenty to choose from. ::)
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Neymar on June 19, 2019, 07:44:16 AM
There are two separate issue here and they both should stand on their own merits.

1) They walked out without paying, because somebody got mad at the cashier. You can't do that. They should be held accountable for this.

2) Police behavior. That was totally uncalled for. They were not a threat, and there were small kids involved. Everything about the stop was wrong and the cops should be fired after an internal review.

No way  should anyone try to connect the two situations, other than the fact that the family was involved in both cases.

This is what made the Don Lemon interview so difficult to watch. Personally I feel they should not have do it. Don was very respectful and tired to keep the interview on the police actions, but there was no way he could avoid the shoplifting in the video the police provided. Their only response was, 'we can't talk about that'.  Many people are going to attempt to use the shoplifitng to justify the actions of the police.

Cap how do you know they werent a threat? How would the police know that?

Based on your previous post, the couple was a threat because they are black.  :shrug: White women approaching me on the side walk will cross the street because I'm prone to snatch her purse. White women are more beautiful because that is what you insist on believing.

I believe anybody desperate enough to jack underwear from a dollar store is a potential threat to anybody. Once again, how do you KNOW he wasnt a threat?
This is probably in your top 5 dumbass posts and Lord knows you have plenty to choose from. ::)

If it was a redneck doing that you wouldnt question the fact they are a potential threat.

Your bias is on full display, but when the cop has one its an issue?

That guy was a potential threat.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: j1908 on June 19, 2019, 08:50:15 AM
I'm with Que on this one. I don't give a rats a-- if they stole the whole candy isle, you don't treat people like that. The black police chief looking like (Herman) needs to stop talking. She only apologized to the family after the Mayor. Her only explanation " There is more to the story". Bitch we saw the video. Crazy heifer
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Bison 4 Life on June 19, 2019, 11:05:06 AM
The video that came out is telling.
Seems they had outstanding warrant and a suspended license
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Capler on June 19, 2019, 11:08:19 AM
The video that came out is telling.
Seems they had outstanding warrant and a suspended license

Those things still don't justify the behavior of the police. Were one of the warrants a murder charge?  :shrug:
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Que82 on June 19, 2019, 11:19:54 AM
There are two separate issue here and they both should stand on their own merits.

1) They walked out without paying, because somebody got mad at the cashier. You can't do that. They should be held accountable for this.

2) Police behavior. That was totally uncalled for. They were not a threat, and there were small kids involved. Everything about the stop was wrong and the cops should be fired after an internal review.

No way  should anyone try to connect the two situations, other than the fact that the family was involved in both cases.

This is what made the Don Lemon interview so difficult to watch. Personally I feel they should not have do it. Don was very respectful and tired to keep the interview on the police actions, but there was no way he could avoid the shoplifting in the video the police provided. Their only response was, 'we can't talk about that'.  Many people are going to attempt to use the shoplifitng to justify the actions of the police.

Cap how do you know they werent a threat? How would the police know that?

Based on your previous post, the couple was a threat because they are black.  :shrug: White women approaching me on the side walk will cross the street because I'm prone to snatch her purse. White women are more beautiful because that is what you insist on believing.

I believe anybody desperate enough to jack underwear from a dollar store is a potential threat to anybody. Once again, how do you KNOW he wasnt a threat?
This is probably in your top 5 dumbass posts and Lord knows you have plenty to choose from. ::)

If it was a redneck doing that you wouldnt question the fact they are a potential threat.

Your bias is on full display, but when the cop has one its an issue?

That guy was a potential threat.
Bias is on display????  Really? If it was a redneck who had robbed the store at gun point the police would have been less forceful and dayum near polite.  So your bias against black folks is showing even more than usual.  Why do I keep discussing cheese with a rat????  :shrug:
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Que82 on June 19, 2019, 11:22:36 AM
The video that came out is telling.
Seems they had outstanding warrant and a suspended license
::) So did they get arrested or charged for those things? Well folks we have an oldsport, now we have a middle-agedsport and I guess neymar's a**  is youngsport.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Neymar on June 19, 2019, 11:27:01 AM
There are two separate issue here and they both should stand on their own merits.

1) They walked out without paying, because somebody got mad at the cashier. You can't do that. They should be held accountable for this.

2) Police behavior. That was totally uncalled for. They were not a threat, and there were small kids involved. Everything about the stop was wrong and the cops should be fired after an internal review.

No way  should anyone try to connect the two situations, other than the fact that the family was involved in both cases.

This is what made the Don Lemon interview so difficult to watch. Personally I feel they should not have do it. Don was very respectful and tired to keep the interview on the police actions, but there was no way he could avoid the shoplifting in the video the police provided. Their only response was, 'we can't talk about that'.  Many people are going to attempt to use the shoplifitng to justify the actions of the police.

Cap how do you know they werent a threat? How would the police know that?

Based on your previous post, the couple was a threat because they are black.  :shrug: White women approaching me on the side walk will cross the street because I'm prone to snatch her purse. White women are more beautiful because that is what you insist on believing.

I believe anybody desperate enough to jack underwear from a dollar store is a potential threat to anybody. Once again, how do you KNOW he wasnt a threat?
This is probably in your top 5 dumbass posts and Lord knows you have plenty to choose from. ::)

If it was a redneck doing that you wouldnt question the fact they are a potential threat.

Your bias is on full display, but when the cop has one its an issue?

That guy was a potential threat.
Bias is on display????  Really? If it was a redneck who had robbed the store at gun point the police would have been less forceful and dayum near polite.  So your bias against black folks is showing even more than usual.  Why do I keep discussing cheese with a rat????  :shrug:

They would only be more polite if the cops themselves were rednecks.
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Que82 on June 19, 2019, 11:29:14 AM
There are two separate issue here and they both should stand on their own merits.

1) They walked out without paying, because somebody got mad at the cashier. You can't do that. They should be held accountable for this.

2) Police behavior. That was totally uncalled for. They were not a threat, and there were small kids involved. Everything about the stop was wrong and the cops should be fired after an internal review.

No way  should anyone try to connect the two situations, other than the fact that the family was involved in both cases.

This is what made the Don Lemon interview so difficult to watch. Personally I feel they should not have do it. Don was very respectful and tired to keep the interview on the police actions, but there was no way he could avoid the shoplifting in the video the police provided. Their only response was, 'we can't talk about that'.  Many people are going to attempt to use the shoplifitng to justify the actions of the police.

Cap how do you know they werent a threat? How would the police know that?

Based on your previous post, the couple was a threat because they are black.  :shrug: White women approaching me on the side walk will cross the street because I'm prone to snatch her purse. White women are more beautiful because that is what you insist on believing.

I believe anybody desperate enough to jack underwear from a dollar store is a potential threat to anybody. Once again, how do you KNOW he wasnt a threat?
This is probably in your top 5 dumbass posts and Lord knows you have plenty to choose from. ::)

If it was a redneck doing that you wouldnt question the fact they are a potential threat.

Your bias is on full display, but when the cop has one its an issue?

That guy was a potential threat.
Bias is on display????  Really? If it was a redneck who had robbed the store at gun point the police would have been less forceful and dayum near polite.  So your bias against black folks is showing even more than usual.  Why do I keep discussing cheese with a rat????  :shrug:

They would only be more polite if the cops themselves were rednecks.
MFer please, you have no clue what you are talking about and are just posting to be posting.   
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: soflorattler on June 19, 2019, 12:11:42 PM
There are two separate issue here and they both should stand on their own merits.

1) They walked out without paying, because somebody got mad at the cashier. You can't do that. They should be held accountable for this.

2) Police behavior. That was totally uncalled for. They were not a threat, and there were small kids involved. Everything about the stop was wrong and the cops should be fired after an internal review.

No way  should anyone try to connect the two situations, other than the fact that the family was involved in both cases.

This is what made the Don Lemon interview so difficult to watch. Personally I feel they should not have do it. Don was very respectful and tired to keep the interview on the police actions, but there was no way he could avoid the shoplifting in the video the police provided. Their only response was, 'we can't talk about that'.  Many people are going to attempt to use the shoplifitng to justify the actions of the police.

Cap how do you know they werent a threat? How would the police know that?

Based on your previous post, the couple was a threat because they are black.  :shrug: White women approaching me on the side walk will cross the street because I'm prone to snatch her purse. White women are more beautiful because that is what you insist on believing.

I believe anybody desperate enough to jack underwear from a dollar store is a potential threat to anybody. Once again, how do you KNOW he wasnt a threat?
This is probably in your top 5 dumbass posts and Lord knows you have plenty to choose from. ::)

If it was a redneck doing that you wouldnt question the fact they are a potential threat.

Your bias is on full display, but when the cop has one its an issue?

That guy was a potential threat.
Bias is on display????  Really? If it was a redneck who had robbed the store at gun point the police would have been less forceful and dayum near polite.  So your bias against black folks is showing even more than usual.  Why do I keep discussing cheese with a rat????  :shrug:

They would only be more polite if the cops themselves were rednecks.
MFer please, you have no clue what you are talking about and are just posting to be posting.
Never does. I gave up responding to him...
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Neymar on June 19, 2019, 02:10:05 PM
There are two separate issue here and they both should stand on their own merits.

1) They walked out without paying, because somebody got mad at the cashier. You can't do that. They should be held accountable for this.

2) Police behavior. That was totally uncalled for. They were not a threat, and there were small kids involved. Everything about the stop was wrong and the cops should be fired after an internal review.

No way  should anyone try to connect the two situations, other than the fact that the family was involved in both cases.

This is what made the Don Lemon interview so difficult to watch. Personally I feel they should not have do it. Don was very respectful and tired to keep the interview on the police actions, but there was no way he could avoid the shoplifting in the video the police provided. Their only response was, 'we can't talk about that'.  Many people are going to attempt to use the shoplifitng to justify the actions of the police.

Cap how do you know they werent a threat? How would the police know that?

Based on your previous post, the couple was a threat because they are black.  :shrug: White women approaching me on the side walk will cross the street because I'm prone to snatch her purse. White women are more beautiful because that is what you insist on believing.

I believe anybody desperate enough to jack underwear from a dollar store is a potential threat to anybody. Once again, how do you KNOW he wasnt a threat?
This is probably in your top 5 dumbass posts and Lord knows you have plenty to choose from. ::)

If it was a redneck doing that you wouldnt question the fact they are a potential threat.

Your bias is on full display, but when the cop has one its an issue?

That guy was a potential threat.
Bias is on display????  Really? If it was a redneck who had robbed the store at gun point the police would have been less forceful and dayum near polite.  So your bias against black folks is showing even more than usual.  Why do I keep discussing cheese with a rat????  :shrug:

They would only be more polite if the cops themselves were rednecks.
MFer please, you have no clue what you are talking about and are just posting to be posting.

Its true. White middle and upper class people treat rednecks like trash. Whites only treat rednecks good when they themselves are rednecks.

one need only look at west Virginia to see what they think of poor whites.

Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Neymar on June 19, 2019, 02:13:29 PM
There are two separate issue here and they both should stand on their own merits.

1) They walked out without paying, because somebody got mad at the cashier. You can't do that. They should be held accountable for this.

2) Police behavior. That was totally uncalled for. They were not a threat, and there were small kids involved. Everything about the stop was wrong and the cops should be fired after an internal review.

No way  should anyone try to connect the two situations, other than the fact that the family was involved in both cases.

This is what made the Don Lemon interview so difficult to watch. Personally I feel they should not have do it. Don was very respectful and tired to keep the interview on the police actions, but there was no way he could avoid the shoplifting in the video the police provided. Their only response was, 'we can't talk about that'.  Many people are going to attempt to use the shoplifitng to justify the actions of the police.

Cap how do you know they werent a threat? How would the police know that?

Based on your previous post, the couple was a threat because they are black.  :shrug: White women approaching me on the side walk will cross the street because I'm prone to snatch her purse. White women are more beautiful because that is what you insist on believing.

I believe anybody desperate enough to jack underwear from a dollar store is a potential threat to anybody. Once again, how do you KNOW he wasnt a threat?
This is probably in your top 5 dumbass posts and Lord knows you have plenty to choose from. ::)

If it was a redneck doing that you wouldnt question the fact they are a potential threat.

Your bias is on full display, but when the cop has one its an issue?

That guy was a potential threat.
Bias is on display????  Really? If it was a redneck who had robbed the store at gun point the police would have been less forceful and dayum near polite.  So your bias against black folks is showing even more than usual.  Why do I keep discussing cheese with a rat????  :shrug:

They would only be more polite if the cops themselves were rednecks.
MFer please, you have no clue what you are talking about and are just posting to be posting.
Never does. I gave up responding to him...

You gave up responding because I was able to suss out that your family member, that went to another persons country to act a fool, didnt have a dad. You got in your feelings about it even though I was defending you in there. :tiptoe: :tiptoe:

Soflo,

Its NOT your fault. You had your own kids to worry about. You couldnt have saved him when you had your own seed to worry about.

You did all you could in the end, and that is admirable even when the results arent what we hope it could be. You can invite him on the forum and he can join the convo if you want. If you prefer I can invite him and you dont have to be involved at all  :hugs:
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Que82 on June 19, 2019, 07:16:19 PM
There are two separate issue here and they both should stand on their own merits.

1) They walked out without paying, because somebody got mad at the cashier. You can't do that. They should be held accountable for this.

2) Police behavior. That was totally uncalled for. They were not a threat, and there were small kids involved. Everything about the stop was wrong and the cops should be fired after an internal review.

No way  should anyone try to connect the two situations, other than the fact that the family was involved in both cases.

This is what made the Don Lemon interview so difficult to watch. Personally I feel they should not have do it. Don was very respectful and tired to keep the interview on the police actions, but there was no way he could avoid the shoplifting in the video the police provided. Their only response was, 'we can't talk about that'.  Many people are going to attempt to use the shoplifitng to justify the actions of the police.

Cap how do you know they werent a threat? How would the police know that?

Based on your previous post, the couple was a threat because they are black.  :shrug: White women approaching me on the side walk will cross the street because I'm prone to snatch her purse. White women are more beautiful because that is what you insist on believing.

I believe anybody desperate enough to jack underwear from a dollar store is a potential threat to anybody. Once again, how do you KNOW he wasnt a threat?
This is probably in your top 5 dumbass posts and Lord knows you have plenty to choose from. ::)

If it was a redneck doing that you wouldnt question the fact they are a potential threat.

Your bias is on full display, but when the cop has one its an issue?

That guy was a potential threat.
Bias is on display????  Really? If it was a redneck who had robbed the store at gun point the police would have been less forceful and dayum near polite.  So your bias against black folks is showing even more than usual.  Why do I keep discussing cheese with a rat????  :shrug:

They would only be more polite if the cops themselves were rednecks.
MFer please, you have no clue what you are talking about and are just posting to be posting.

Its true. White middle and upper class people treat rednecks like trash. Whites only treat rednecks good when they themselves are rednecks.

one need only look at west Virginia to see what they think of poor whites.
Proof????  If you don't have proof you are just blowing smoke as usually.  I have receipts.

Think about how the other scenario unfolded.  Now look at these felony stops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENJ7cRdzwFo


This guy was in a gunfight and was more calmer than
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21PwB0ALv3M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNEsCpQ5avk

Even when fighting a redneck the cop is more polite than the cops who were reporting to a shoplifting call.  This thing is systematic and permeates through police departments across this country.  Anyone who suggests that we are treated equally is a bigger liar than trump. ::)

So your example is WVA where blacls make up 3% of the population?????  You trying to cherry pick one of the whitest states in the US as your examples. STFU!!!! ::)
Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Neymar on June 19, 2019, 07:39:41 PM
There are two separate issue here and they both should stand on their own merits.

1) They walked out without paying, because somebody got mad at the cashier. You can't do that. They should be held accountable for this.

2) Police behavior. That was totally uncalled for. They were not a threat, and there were small kids involved. Everything about the stop was wrong and the cops should be fired after an internal review.

No way  should anyone try to connect the two situations, other than the fact that the family was involved in both cases.

This is what made the Don Lemon interview so difficult to watch. Personally I feel they should not have do it. Don was very respectful and tired to keep the interview on the police actions, but there was no way he could avoid the shoplifting in the video the police provided. Their only response was, 'we can't talk about that'.  Many people are going to attempt to use the shoplifitng to justify the actions of the police.

Cap how do you know they werent a threat? How would the police know that?

Based on your previous post, the couple was a threat because they are black.  :shrug: White women approaching me on the side walk will cross the street because I'm prone to snatch her purse. White women are more beautiful because that is what you insist on believing.

I believe anybody desperate enough to jack underwear from a dollar store is a potential threat to anybody. Once again, how do you KNOW he wasnt a threat?
This is probably in your top 5 dumbass posts and Lord knows you have plenty to choose from. ::)

If it was a redneck doing that you wouldnt question the fact they are a potential threat.

Your bias is on full display, but when the cop has one its an issue?

That guy was a potential threat.
Bias is on display????  Really? If it was a redneck who had robbed the store at gun point the police would have been less forceful and dayum near polite.  So your bias against black folks is showing even more than usual.  Why do I keep discussing cheese with a rat????  :shrug:

They would only be more polite if the cops themselves were rednecks.
MFer please, you have no clue what you are talking about and are just posting to be posting.

Its true. White middle and upper class people treat rednecks like trash. Whites only treat rednecks good when they themselves are rednecks.

one need only look at west Virginia to see what they think of poor whites.
Proof????  If you don't have proof you are just blowing smoke as usually.  I have receipts.

Think about how the other scenario unfolded.  Now look at these felony stops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENJ7cRdzwFo


This guy was in a gunfight and was more calmer than
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21PwB0ALv3M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNEsCpQ5avk

Even when fighting a redneck the cop is more polite than the cops who were reporting to a shoplifting call.  This thing is systematic and permeates through police departments across this country.  Anyone who suggests that we are treated equally is a bigger liar than trump. ::)

So your example is WVA where blacls make up 3% of the population?????  You trying to cherry pick one of the whitest states in the US as your examples. STFU!!!! ::)

Those cops are rednecks in your examples.

Also I used West Virginia as my example as proof whites treat poor whites with disdain. A country that put a man on the moon has them living in squalor. They hate poor whites.

Title: Re: Shocking Video of Phoenix Cops Holding Black Family at Gunpoint Over $1 Doll
Post by: Que82 on June 19, 2019, 08:05:34 PM
There are two separate issue here and they both should stand on their own merits.

1) They walked out without paying, because somebody got mad at the cashier. You can't do that. They should be held accountable for this.

2) Police behavior. That was totally uncalled for. They were not a threat, and there were small kids involved. Everything about the stop was wrong and the cops should be fired after an internal review.

No way  should anyone try to connect the two situations, other than the fact that the family was involved in both cases.

This is what made the Don Lemon interview so difficult to watch. Personally I feel they should not have do it. Don was very respectful and tired to keep the interview on the police actions, but there was no way he could avoid the shoplifting in the video the police provided. Their only response was, 'we can't talk about that'.  Many people are going to attempt to use the shoplifitng to justify the actions of the police.

Cap how do you know they werent a threat? How would the police know that?

Based on your previous post, the couple was a threat because they are black.  :shrug: White women approaching me on the side walk will cross the street because I'm prone to snatch her purse. White women are more beautiful because that is what you insist on believing.

I believe anybody desperate enough to jack underwear from a dollar store is a potential threat to anybody. Once again, how do you KNOW he wasnt a threat?
This is probably in your top 5 dumbass posts and Lord knows you have plenty to choose from. ::)

If it was a redneck doing that you wouldnt question the fact they are a potential threat.

Your bias is on full display, but when the cop has one its an issue?

That guy was a potential threat.
Bias is on display????  Really? If it was a redneck who had robbed the store at gun point the police would have been less forceful and dayum near polite.  So your bias against black folks is showing even more than usual.  Why do I keep discussing cheese with a rat????  :shrug:

They would only be more polite if the cops themselves were rednecks.
MFer please, you have no clue what you are talking about and are just posting to be posting.

Its true. White middle and upper class people treat rednecks like trash. Whites only treat rednecks good when they themselves are rednecks.

one need only look at west Virginia to see what they think of poor whites.
Proof????  If you don't have proof you are just blowing smoke as usually.  I have receipts.

Think about how the other scenario unfolded.  Now look at these felony stops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENJ7cRdzwFo


This guy was in a gunfight and was more calmer than
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21PwB0ALv3M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNEsCpQ5avk

Even when fighting a redneck the cop is more polite than the cops who were reporting to a shoplifting call.  This thing is systematic and permeates through police departments across this country.  Anyone who suggests that we are treated equally is a bigger liar than trump. ::)

So your example is WVA where blacls make up 3% of the population?????  You trying to cherry pick one of the whitest states in the US as your examples. STFU!!!! ::)

Those cops are rednecks in your examples.

Also I used West Virginia as my example as proof whites treat poor whites with disdain. A country that put a man on the moon has them living in squalor. They hate poor whites.
(https://i.chzbgr.com/full/1881653504/h16B91C6E/)