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Title: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: wssupickle on May 04, 2019, 09:51:34 PM
https://www.journalnow.com/news/local/boulware-s-handling-of-fight-between-two-of-his-players/article_7def6740-da7b-5af5-a344-d671f8117406.html#3
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: punchy on May 05, 2019, 12:48:04 AM
Do yall think WSSU has a case?
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: y04185 on May 05, 2019, 06:39:16 AM
Interesting. 

Somebody wants him out.
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: The Truth on May 05, 2019, 07:26:46 AM
A good lawyer will have fun with this. In all my lifetime I can never recall anyone being dismissed over breaking us a fight? Smells fishy. He is the last of Bill Hayes’ appointments in the department. 
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: CEME2 on May 05, 2019, 12:24:53 PM
This type of incidents been going on for years in all HBCU’s.  Somebody wanted Coach Boulware fired.  It seems as if Coach Massey is a Judas and Knox don’t have any testicles.
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: FSUHALL on May 05, 2019, 12:37:18 PM
Like to see how this works out.
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: InTheHunt on May 05, 2019, 02:06:52 PM
This type of incidents been going on for years in all HBCU’s.  Somebody wanted Coach Boulware fired.  It seems as if Coach Massey is a Judas and Knox don’t have any testicles.

Oh this will be interesting... especially with Elwood being on the hot seat...
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: Golden Kitten on May 05, 2019, 03:42:37 PM
???
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: 804ram07 on May 05, 2019, 06:49:50 PM
Copy of Chancellor Robinson's letter to Boulware

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Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: JBROB on May 05, 2019, 06:53:34 PM
WSSU: Head football coach's failure to report possible gun, drugs and fights on campus is cause for termination

Allegations:
1. Not reporting a gun on campus
2. Not reporting marijuana on campus
3. Participating in a cover-up.

https://www.wxii12.com/article/wssu-leaders-intend-to-fire-head-football-coach-for-failure-to-report-possible-gun-drugs-and-fights-on-campus/27364973
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: Oldschoolram on May 05, 2019, 08:02:46 PM
Thank you sir.  I guess folks missed this or didn't realize the gravity of it. As I said at first the appeal process will air it out.
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: CEME2 on May 05, 2019, 08:15:19 PM
This type of BS happens throughout all HBCU’s.  Legendary Coaches have went into skirmishes such as this without all of this rhetoric.  Chancellor Robinson is using this incident to fire Boulware.  The team will have certain setbacks over this matter. 
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: bluedog on May 05, 2019, 09:55:07 PM
It's  BS, but unfortunately it is justifiable cause. Take it from somebody who have seen their fair share and more of these type of terminations
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: BisonBlu on May 05, 2019, 10:34:10 PM
Failure to report is a serous matter. As a state employee he clearly knew of this. He’s done
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: Love and football/wings and beer on May 05, 2019, 11:44:48 PM
From what I see it should be justified to end his employment. Also, they could have a case for the violations FERP by contacting the parents of the involved students.
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: aggie law on May 06, 2019, 07:03:08 AM
Times have changed and our administrators must be held accountable. I'm no big WSSU fan, but the coach seemed to have his heart in the right place to protect his student athlete. So sad.

The gun allegation may have a deeper lasting effect on future employment. :no:
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: OGRamball3r on May 06, 2019, 09:29:50 AM
As a CSA ot appears he is mandated to report to campus police but did not. That there alone is grounds for termination.  Biggest mistake was sitting on this hoping it would blow over. Instead it blew up......on him.
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: WileECoyote06 on May 06, 2019, 10:33:28 AM
I agree with others; although it is sad for him to lose his job in this way. . . it is definitely justified.
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: Professor on May 06, 2019, 03:03:35 PM
Man that's crazy
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: Ram55 on May 06, 2019, 05:51:35 PM
I think the school acted far too fast. He did what 99% of the people on this forum would have done. It easy to look back afterwards and say what he should have done. This move makes my Rams look worse than we already are. With so much going on with our sports program, we do something stupid like this. This coach was good for WSSU and his players, regardless of his won/lost record. He is loyal and represents stability for a program that's on very shaky grounds. 
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: CEME2 on May 06, 2019, 07:51:44 PM
Coach Boulware doesn’t desire this type of humiliation for the Rams that he loves.  WSSU has been on shaky ground for the past several years.  From the Chancellor to house-keeping shaky ground.  I hope your AD hire will have some tough skin.
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: 804ram07 on May 07, 2019, 07:40:29 AM
I think the school acted far too fast. He did what 99% of the people on this forum would have done. It easy to look back afterwards and say what he should have done. This move makes my Rams look worse than we already are. With so much going on with our sports program, we do something stupid like this. This coach was good for WSSU and his players, regardless of his won/lost record. He is loyal and represents stability for a program that's on very shaky grounds.
3 weeks is too fast?

I wouldn't be surprised if the recent rape allegation that allegedly went unreported by the A&T cheerleading coaches played a part in the firing.  That also had Clery implications.

Boulware also implicated 2 members of his staff in this, including his successor.  I wonder how much the administration looked into his story before appointing him interim HC.

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Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: soflorattler on May 07, 2019, 08:59:48 AM
Interesting. 

Somebody wants him out.

Agreed. Why go to straight firing him past suspension, probation, or any other progressive disciplinary measure in a lead up to firing?  It's not like he abused a student or misappropriated department funds or anything like that.
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: OGRamball3r on May 07, 2019, 10:24:11 AM
Interesting. 

Somebody wants him out.

Agreed. Why go to straight firing him past suspension, probation, or any other progressive disciplinary measure in a lead up to firing?  It's not like he abused a student or misappropriated department funds or anything like that.


Come on now, it has been discussed on this board many times about how WSSU fans have been clamoring for his removal.  With the pressure placed on the Admin. to do something, Boulware dropped this in the admin. lap and they saw an opportunity to remove him and not have to pay, which IMHO was the key factor in making the move.  Get a new coach and not have to pay the old one that had two seasons left on contract.  This was a layup for the admin.
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: MilesBear1 on May 07, 2019, 12:18:01 PM
And Robert Massey is their interim Coach. ;D :lol: :snicker :lmao:
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: Oldschoolram on May 14, 2019, 11:32:14 AM
Why is that funny?
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: Thinkingaboutit on May 16, 2019, 04:34:20 AM
The President referred to the persons involved as FOOTBALL PLAYERS not the oft use  STUDENT ATHLETES.   Hearsay, there was a gun. and a substance in the garbage can with a brown residue resembling marijauna .  Where is the gun? Where is the residue?  Who is this President?  He wanted to fire this coach and those simple headed STUDENTS who are athletes helped.  As for the interim coach, what choice did he have.  He was appointed to take over the team, which he cares about too.  I have seen worse. 
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: Pirate12 on June 18, 2019, 10:56:32 AM

If Boulware has a good lawyer he can beat this and get paid. But, the issue with these cases is most plaintiff's don't have the money to ride out appeal and counter appeal. The other issue goes beyond the expressed guns, drugs etc. When you have team mates that jeopardize their coaches because of stupid actions and egotistical hate for other black men then you have a disconnect of sorts between coaches and players. That is not to say players didn't fight back in the day...but they settled it on the field or behind the building. A couple of punches and tackling, but no guns and crazy stuff. The two players should be booted from the team by the interim HC.
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: Ram55 on June 18, 2019, 01:53:26 PM

If Boulware has a good lawyer he can beat this and get paid. But, the issue with these cases is most plaintiff's don't have the money to ride out appeal and counter appeal. The other issue goes beyond the expressed guns, drugs etc. When you have team mates that jeopardize their coaches because of stupid actions and egotistical hate for other black men then you have a disconnect of sorts between coaches and players. That is not to say players didn't fight back in the day...but they settled it on the field or behind the building. A couple of punches and tackling, but no guns and crazy stuff. The two players should be booted from the team by the interim HC.

I agree
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: Rams3 on June 18, 2019, 04:43:26 PM
He can have a great Lawyer. He will not win this case. I can tell you that much... It's more to it than hearsay....
Title: Re: Reason for WSSU's Boulware getting fired is reveled....
Post by: ncsiacfan on June 19, 2019, 12:19:49 AM
Mine was a documented harassment complaint. My lawyer told me that I had a good case, but since she could not sue for damages, I would have to give her a retainer just to receive a written apology and it was not worth it. I have advised all that I know that both your University and state of NC Tenure code protects the University and the System and not the teacher and any ranking administrator including a coach covered by it. That would not be true for a office worker or maintenance worker. You can avoid this by doing what none of us would know to do. Totally avoid the printed university grievance procedures and go straight to a labor lawyer. Then like the office secretary, you can get you one of those lawyers who advertise "I don't get paid unless you do." You nullify this once you start with the university grievance procedures. The coach may win, but he will lose.