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Title: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: soflorattler on December 05, 2018, 05:16:45 PM
I'm hearing rumblings that you all are looking to leave the MEAC. What say you? Where will you go?
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: punchy on December 05, 2018, 08:30:50 PM
I'm hearing rumblings that you all are looking to leave the MEAC. What say you? Where will you go?

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Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: eagle pride on December 05, 2018, 09:42:04 PM
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Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: EL JAY on December 05, 2018, 09:48:47 PM
With all the budget issues they have....that may be the best BUSINESS decision. 
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: BisonBlu on December 06, 2018, 08:14:17 AM
two great options.  fill the void of Claflin in the SIAC or go with their Orangeburg neighbor to the CIAA.  Either would be a major financial win.
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: punchy on December 06, 2018, 09:40:31 AM
two great options.  fill the void of Claflin in the SIAC or go with their Orangeburg neighbor to the CIAA.  Either would be a major financial win.

If they decide to go the D2 route, which conference would be the best fit for SCSU geographically?
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: Professor on December 06, 2018, 09:49:07 AM
Interesting. Them in the CIAA South would be interesting
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: TheBlackPanther on December 06, 2018, 01:54:40 PM
SC State going DII is something I’ll have to see to believe. For the sake of conversation though I think they would be a better fit in the SIAC because of their emphasis on football. If they drop down to DII it’s a safe bet that Claflin will play them in everything twice a year anyway and I really can’t think of any other reason for them to want to join the CIAA.
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: Warpaint on December 06, 2018, 03:13:33 PM
SC State going DII is something I’ll have to see to believe. For the sake of conversation though I think they would be a better fit in the SIAC because of their emphasis on football. If they drop down to DII it’s a safe bet that Claflin will play them in everything twice a year anyway and I really can’t think of any other reason for them to want to join the CIAA.

The SIAC would give them some close trips to Benedict, Paine, and Savannah State, but traveling to other SIAC East schools (i.e. Fort Valley and Albany State) would actually be longer trips then them traveling to CIAA South schools. Then the cross over games in the SIAC West would on average be further trips then playing CIAA North schools (plus the CIAA North schools practically mirror the territory SC State is already used to traveling in the MEAC).
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: TheBlackPanther on December 07, 2018, 07:27:24 AM
SC State going DII is something I’ll have to see to believe. For the sake of conversation though I think they would be a better fit in the SIAC because of their emphasis on football. If they drop down to DII it’s a safe bet that Claflin will play them in everything twice a year anyway and I really can’t think of any other reason for them to want to join the CIAA.

The SIAC would give them some close trips to Benedict, Paine, and Savannah State, but traveling to other SIAC East schools (i.e. Fort Valley and Albany State) would actually be longer trips then them traveling to CIAA South schools. Then the cross over games in the SIAC West would on average be further trips then playing CIAA North schools (plus the CIAA North schools practically mirror the territory SC State is already used to traveling in the MEAC).

Fair points but SC State just doesn't feel like a CIAA school to me. To be honest, I don't think SC State is going to go DII. Lord knows I've been wrong on these boards before, but I just don't see it. If they held out through the school almost closing their doors a few years ago, why the sudden change of heart now that things are starting to stabilize? Sure, it would probably save them a little money, but I know there's a whole lot of "pride" in their athletic programs and admitting defeat isn't something I see them doing unless it's being forced on them.
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: EL JAY on December 07, 2018, 08:58:51 AM
I feel you...BUT....just because you survived the past issues....sometimes you need to examine the reasons that put you in that situation. 

There are a lot of proud alumni of closed schools too. 

I don't think it would be a sense of failure if they dropped down.  It would be a sense of good business to drop down.  It would be better for SCSU to make those decisions than for Ethan, Amber and the Governor to make it for them. IJS. Of course that's if this is a issue anyways.

If you guys can afford it...well more power to you.  The savings of dropping to D2 is significant.  The average D2 budget is $3.3M with football and $2.3 without.
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: Jay_Thomas on December 07, 2018, 09:37:33 AM
Why are we assuming that these 'rumblings of SCSU leaving the MEAC' means that they are also moving to D2? I'm not saying that they aren't but is it also possible that they may move to another FCS conference? Truth be told, they may not be going ANYWHERE. But, I'm just asking the question for conversation sake.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: TheBlackPanther on December 07, 2018, 09:54:42 AM
I feel you...BUT....just because you survived the past issues....sometimes you need to examine the reasons that put you in that situation. 

There are a lot of proud alumni of closed schools too. 

I don't think it would be a sense of failure if they dropped down.  It would be a sense of good business to drop down.  It would be better for SCSU to make those decisions than for Ethan, Amber and the Governor to make it for them. IJS. Of course that's if this is a issue anyways.

If you guys can afford it...well more power to you.  The savings of dropping to D2 is significant.  The average D2 budget is $3.3M with football and $2.3 without.

Trust me we’re in agreement. I’ve said here before that I believe most of our DI schools would be better off as DII. I just don’t think they’ll do it until someone forces their hand. I applaud Savannah State and WSSU because I know not too many other schools would swallow their pride and move back down.
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: punchy on December 07, 2018, 10:16:23 AM
Why are we assuming that these 'rumblings of SCSU leaving the MEAC' means that they are also moving to D2? I'm not saying that they aren't but is it also possible that they may move to another FCS conference? Truth be told, they may not be going ANYWHERE. But, I'm just asking the question for conversation sake.  :popcorn:

I think these "rumblings" are as a result of the financial problems SCSU had in the past. They could very well be moving laterally to the Big South, Southern, or CAA conference, or even the Southland.
Personally, I hope it's just that. Rumblings. I want them to stay in the MEAC.
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: TheBlackPanther on December 07, 2018, 10:36:18 AM
Why are we assuming that these 'rumblings of SCSU leaving the MEAC' means that they are also moving to D2? I'm not saying that they aren't but is it also possible that they may move to another FCS conference? Truth be told, they may not be going ANYWHERE. But, I'm just asking the question for conversation sake.  :popcorn:

I think these "rumblings" are as a result of the financial problems SCSU had in the past. They could very well be moving laterally to the Big South, Southern, or CAA conference, or even the Southland.
Personally, I hope it's just that. Rumblings. I want them to stay in the MEAC.

With all due respect to the MEAC, if SC State isn’t particularly competitive there these days then what sense does moving to a presumably more competitive conference make?
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: EL JAY on December 07, 2018, 10:38:02 AM
Why are we assuming that these 'rumblings of SCSU leaving the MEAC' means that they are also moving to D2? I'm not saying that they aren't but is it also possible that they may move to another FCS conference? Truth be told, they may not be going ANYWHERE. But, I'm just asking the question for conversation sake.  :popcorn:

BECAUSE...college football season is in it's no games period and we have nothing else to talk about.  BTW.....LOL....didn't you used to date Teacher Bae?  Asking for a friend of mine who works in Family Court....lol

Just playing potna.....lol
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: Jay_Thomas on December 07, 2018, 10:58:11 AM
With all due respect to the MEAC, if SC State isn’t particularly competitive there these days then what sense does moving to a presumably more competitive conference make?


Competitive in football? OR are we talking ALL sports?.

Also, its not a given that D2 will allow them to be any more 'competitive' than they already are. I know thats the 'notion' but it isn't necessarily so...in SCSU's case...or is it?
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: Jay_Thomas on December 07, 2018, 11:00:19 AM
  BTW.....LOL....didn't you used to date Teacher bae?  Asking for a friend of mine who works in Family Court....lol

Just playing potna.....lol


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Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: TheBlackPanther on December 07, 2018, 11:41:18 AM
With all due respect to the MEAC, if SC State isn’t particularly competitive there these days then what sense does moving to a presumably more competitive conference make?


Competitive in football? OR are we talking ALL sports?.

Also, its not a given that D2 will allow them to be any more 'competitive' than they already are. I know thats the 'notion' but it isn't necessarily so...in SCSU's case...or is it?


I was mostly talking about football and basketball.

And while I agree that going DII doesn’t automatically make them more competitive, their main objective would be to save money and if they can win more games in the process then that would be an added bonus. That’s my assumption anyway. But if I’m being honest, I think SC State would do fairly well in the SIAC for sure in football and probably basketball too. I just have a hunch. It would also be cool to see a rivalry eventually form with Benedict.
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: oleschoolaggie on December 07, 2018, 12:44:25 PM
Why are we assuming that these 'rumblings of SCSU leaving the MEAC' means that they are also moving to D2? I'm not saying that they aren't but is it also possible that they may move to another FCS conference? Truth be told, they may not be going ANYWHERE. But, I'm just asking the question for conversation sake.  :popcorn:

I think these "rumblings" are as a result of the financial problems SCSU had in the past. They could very well be moving laterally to the Big South, Southern, or CAA conference, or even the Southland.
Personally, I hope it's just that. Rumblings. I want them to stay in the MEAC.

without doubt i hope they stay put too, but their current financial state would not be very attractive to other fcs conferences.  if there's any chance of that happening, only the big south would be an option in my opinion.  but again, i would think that the big south would not look favorably towards scsu's current financial state...
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: Que82 on December 07, 2018, 03:47:10 PM
Why are we assuming that these 'rumblings of SCSU leaving the MEAC' means that they are also moving to D2? I'm not saying that they aren't but is it also possible that they may move to another FCS conference? Truth be told, they may not be going ANYWHERE. But, I'm just asking the question for conversation sake.  :popcorn:

I think these "rumblings" are as a result of the financial problems SCSU had in the past. They could very well be moving laterally to the Big South, Southern, or CAA conference, or even the Southland.
Personally, I hope it's just that. Rumblings. I want them to stay in the MEAC.
I'm not sure with all their money woes that they will be welcomed in a PWC. :shrug:
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: westcoastaggie on December 07, 2018, 03:48:07 PM
I'm hearing rumblings that you all are looking to leave the MEAC. What say you? Where will you go?

IF they do leave the MEAC, they will be right back in the SIAC or join Claflin in the CIAA.
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: westcoastaggie on December 07, 2018, 03:57:18 PM
Why are we assuming that these 'rumblings of SCSU leaving the MEAC' means that they are also moving to D2? I'm not saying that they aren't but is it also possible that they may move to another FCS conference? Truth be told, they may not be going ANYWHERE. But, I'm just asking the question for conversation sake.  :popcorn:

They would have to be invited to join another FCS conference for one, and the only one that would consider it would be the Big South. They have better options honestly (even within the MEAC).
Title: Re: SCSU Faithful!
Post by: Que82 on December 07, 2018, 04:07:36 PM
two great options.  fill the void of Claflin in the SIAC or go with their Orangeburg neighbor to the CIAA.  Either would be a major financial win.

If they decide to go the D2 route, which conference would be the best fit for SCSU geographically?
CIAA