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Title: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: wsm on August 20, 2018, 09:27:12 PM
http://www.jacksonville.com/sports/20180819/ruffin-targets-new-day-for-edward-waters-football

He said the long-term goal is advancement from the NAIA into NCAA Division II and the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Conference, a 13-school group chiefly made up of historically black colleges and universities.
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: klg14 on August 20, 2018, 09:48:14 PM
Hmm...
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: EPJr on August 20, 2018, 11:07:40 PM
don't they need to join the NCAA first  :nono2:
then be accepted in D2?
he is putting the cart before the horse  :shrug:
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: JBROB on August 21, 2018, 04:00:24 AM
Coach probably got a call from the president's office.  Don't get too excited.  We are in the business of educating students.

I hope the stadium project doesn't put the college in too much debt.
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: TheBlackPanther on August 21, 2018, 06:29:36 AM
From what I’ve heard from very reliable sources, I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see EWC join the SIAC in the very near future. I have a good feeling about this school. They’re doing all the right things right now and leadership seems to really have a clear vision of what they want to accomplish.
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: lew9ball on August 21, 2018, 07:46:43 AM
Maybe a good fit. :popcorn:
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: MilesBear1 on August 21, 2018, 11:08:06 AM
Interesting.
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: Jay_Thomas on August 21, 2018, 11:23:29 AM
hope the stadium project doesn't put the college in too much debt.


Oh My, this is the first I have heard about a stadium project. So of course, you know I had to google it and be nosey 
;D

EWC home Stadium (https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/new-stadium-at-edward-waters-college-will-allow-home-games-for-first-time/731884284)
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: MilesBear1 on August 21, 2018, 11:29:31 AM
With Savannah State returning I could see Allen and EWC also returning back to the SIAC. We are slowly getting back to the Old SIAC Conference from the old days. With them three our membership will increase to 16 members You can always come Home. :nod: But they would shake up the Football Divisions as the three of them are located on the Eastern side of the SIAC footprint. I could see this as a realignment in Football.

SIAC West
Miles
Tuskegee
Central State
Kentucky State
Lane
Albany State


SIAC East
Benedict
FVSU
Allen (If they decide to return)
Morehouse
Savannah State
EWC (If they decide to return)
CAU

Without Stillman in the west the Divisions will be uneven.
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: Rams3 on August 22, 2018, 07:05:54 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: Coach Ruffin did say in the future...... Sounds he's thinking "outside the box", something many of our people love to say when want a Coach. Time will tell. I wish EWC and Coach Ruffin succes.
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: Ram55 on August 22, 2018, 08:57:47 AM
With Savannah State returning I could see Allen and EWC also returning back to the SIAC. We are slowly getting back to the Old SIAC Conference from the old days. With them three our membership will increase to 16 members You can always come Home. :nod: But they would shake up the Football Divisions as the three of them are located on the Eastern side of the SIAC footprint. I could see this as a realignment in Football.

SIAC West
Miles
Tuskegee
Central State
Kentucky State
Lane
Albany State


SIAC East
Benedict
FVSU
Allen (If they decide to return)
Morehouse
Savannah State
EWC (If they decide to return)
CAU

Without Stillman in the west the Divisions will be uneven.

Miles, Albany St. and TU in the same division?
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: MilesBear1 on August 22, 2018, 11:59:37 AM
Well either way somebody would get bumped around. :nod:
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: G-Ram on August 22, 2018, 12:29:12 PM
I think it's very nice that the city of Jacksonville, Florida is giving $8.3 million to EWC... :clap: :clap: :clap: A lot of other cities should take note instead of trying to bring down a school. Other surrounding Cities and Municipalities will leave you(Albany) in the dust(see growing cities in Georgia) if you keep(dwelling in negativity)arguing and bickering amongst yourselves.  Colleges in small cities can mean so much to a community. For example, Take UGA, Florida, Alabama, Auburn, GA Southern away from those cities and what do you have? The economic impact will be devastating if they were to lose those schools.
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: TheBlackPanther on August 22, 2018, 02:44:15 PM
I think it's very nice that the city of Jacksonville, Florida is giving $8.3 million to EWC... :clap: :clap: :clap: A lot of other cities should take note instead of trying to bring down a school. Other surrounding Cities and Municipalities will leave you(Albany) in the dust(see growing cities in Georgia) if you keep(dwelling in negativity)arguing and bickering amongst yourselves.  Colleges in small cities can mean so much to a community. For example, Take UGA, Florida, Alabama, Auburn, GA Southern away from those cities and what do you have? The economic impact will be devastating if they were to lose those schools.

Jacksonville is the largest city in Florida (in terms of city limits) so I wouldn’t call that a “small city” but I do think you bring up a good point. Unfortunately, it’s rare that we see cities step up and support an HBCU...and a private one at that.
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: Professor on July 09, 2019, 12:44:58 PM
Welp they are back ....... SIAC has formally invited EWC in
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: Jay_Thomas on July 09, 2019, 01:02:01 PM
MB1 you've been saying this for a while now...

Edward Waters College to join SIAC (https://onnidan.com/newsroom/july-sept-2019/6610-edward-waters-college-to-join-siac?fbclid=IwAR1gp_p1SaeOZtplHp3GP4NWEgzCbBmT3O5nVpIetBwfWH_9jxffeINF75o)


Quote
Under the leadership of new EWC Director of Intercollegiate Athletics, Mr. Paul Bryant, Edward Waters will now turn its efforts towards exploring the feasibility of making a successful application to the NCAA over the next 24-36 months.
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: FunCkMaster on July 09, 2019, 03:22:52 PM
This is good stuff right here.  :clap:

Probably the best thread I have read on this site in weeks.

It's time we talked some good old HBCU sports. These off brand subjects and politics and all of the BS going on in this country and the world gets old and tired... This news made me smile, and I have never stepped foot on EWC's campus. It's just good old plain good news for an HBCU. I'd like to see more. :nod:

MB1, JT, Valley Girl, Yogi, Jaimac, GK and friends, who is gonna be the favorite football squad in the SIAC this season?
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: Jay_Thomas on July 09, 2019, 04:20:49 PM

MB1, JT, Valley Girl, Yogi, Jaimac, GK and friends, who is gonna be the favorite football squad in the SIAC this season?



Hmmm......

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSoGB1I-cfti7AKlZngoOq2JBWAMzRV0sanji5Q1HDK5Ml5jMJc)

....let me think...




 ;D
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: Jaimac on July 09, 2019, 07:57:49 PM
This is good stuff right here.  :clap:

Probably the best thread I have read on this site in weeks.

.........
MB1, JT, Valley Girl, Yogi, Jaimac, GK and friends, who is gonna be the favorite football squad in the SIAC this season?



(https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/160/apple/81/woman-shrugging-type-5_1f937-1f3fe-200d-2640-fe0f.png)
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: FunCkMaster on July 09, 2019, 09:29:43 PM
This is good stuff right here.  :clap:

Probably the best thread I have read on this site in weeks.

.........
MB1, JT, Valley Girl, Yogi, Jaimac, GK and friends, who is gonna be the favorite football squad in the SIAC this season?



(https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/160/apple/81/woman-shrugging-type-5_1f937-1f3fe-200d-2640-fe0f.png)

My bad. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I should not have put y'all on the spot like that!  :lol:
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: ‘87 Alum on July 09, 2019, 09:38:03 PM
SIAC PRESEASON POLL

Eastern Division
1. Albany State (3)
2. Benedict (2)
3. Morehouse (1)
4. Fort Valley State
5. Clark Atlanta
6. Savannah State

Western Division
1. Miles (2)
2. Tuskegee (2)
3. Central State (3)
4. Lane
5. Kentucky State
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: JBTheEagle on July 09, 2019, 10:11:14 PM
This is good stuff right here.  :clap:

Probably the best thread I have read on this site in weeks.

It's time we talked some good old HBCU sports. These off brand subjects and politics and all of the BS going on in this country and the world gets old and tired... This news made me smile, and I have never stepped foot on EWC's campus. It's just good old plain good news for an HBCU. I'd like to see more. :nod:

MB1, JT, Valley Girl, Yogi, Jaimac, GK and friends, who is gonna be the favorite football squad in the SIAC this season?

I agree, glad to talk more HBCU sports.

I know this is good for their football program. But will they be competitive in other sports too? That's often overlooked in conference and NCAA Division transitions.
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: FunCkMaster on July 09, 2019, 10:29:56 PM
This is good stuff right here.  :clap:

Probably the best thread I have read on this site in weeks.

It's time we talked some good old HBCU sports. These off brand subjects and politics and all of the BS going on in this country and the world gets old and tired... This news made me smile, and I have never stepped foot on EWC's campus. It's just good old plain good news for an HBCU. I'd like to see more. :nod:

MB1, JT, Valley Girl, Yogi, Jaimac, GK and friends, who is gonna be the favorite football squad in the SIAC this season?

I agree, glad to talk more HBCU sports.

I know this is good for their football program. But will they be competitive in other sports too? That's often overlooked in conference and NCAA Division transitions.

Good point. Guess we may find out!
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: Jay_Thomas on July 10, 2019, 10:14:27 AM

My bad. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I should not have put y'all on the spot like that!  :lol:

 :lol:




 ;D Ain't no thang but a chicken wang.
Heyal, all any of us can do is predict
and speculate. Time will tell
  :nod:
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: Professor on July 10, 2019, 10:44:41 AM
SIAC PRESEASON POLL

Eastern Division
1. Albany State (3)
2. Benedict (2)
3. Morehouse (1)
4. Fort Valley State
5. Clark Atlanta
6. Savannah State

Western Division
1. Miles (2)
2. Tuskegee (2)
3. Central State (3)
4. Lane
5. Kentucky State

Savannah won't be last
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: lew9ball on July 10, 2019, 11:03:31 AM
SIAC PRESEASON POLL

Eastern Division
1. Albany State (3)
2. Benedict (2)
3. Morehouse (1)
4. Fort Valley State
5. Clark Atlanta
6. Savannah State

Western Division
1. Miles (2)
2. Tuskegee (2)
3. Central State (3)
4. Lane
5. Kentucky State

Savannah won't be last
I agree Professor should be an interesting upcoming season. ;D
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: ncsiacfan on July 10, 2019, 11:20:09 AM
I am a soccer fanatic, but I too am ready to talk football. I agree, I don't think that Savannah State will finish last. My question for weeks now is how in the hades is the House suppose to beat Alabama A & M on September Ist?
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: MilesBear1 on July 10, 2019, 11:59:02 AM
I think EWC will be in the SIAC West Division but we'll see where they will be placed after their transition from NAIA to NCAA. :nod:
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: Jay_Thomas on July 10, 2019, 03:37:44 PM
They need to be in the West.

Its only 5 teams in the West currently.

The East already has 6 teams.

That would even out the divisions.
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: Jay_Thomas on July 11, 2019, 09:02:45 AM
My question for weeks now is how in the hades is the House suppose to beat Alabama A & M on September Ist?


 ;D My beloved HouseBrotha, we have a better chance at beating A&M today more than we did when you and I were in school. Back then when A&M was an SIAC member, that was an ANNUAL beatdown, getting drug up and down the field, lucky if we scored A touchdown OR fieldgoal vs the Bulldogs 40-50-60 points on the board.  :brickwall: Our football team is a lot more competitive these days.  Trust me, we CAN do it.  But will we? Time will tell.  FIRE IT UP, MOREHOUSE!!!
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: wsm on July 11, 2019, 10:32:46 PM
how does the commissioner as well as council of presidents vote to accept a school who has yet to meet their first hurdle of getting accepted into Division II.
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: Valley Girl on July 12, 2019, 01:24:42 AM
They need to be in the West.

Its only 5 teams in the West currently.

The East already has 6 teams.

That would even out the divisions.


Yeah but geographically they are further east than anyone else except maybe Savannah. 

It’s kind of weird, but Albany State is closer west than any other school in the east, but not by much.   If they stick to geographically splitting the conference east to west then ASU would switch over. 
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: Ed Cassiere, Xavier (New Orleans) on July 12, 2019, 02:20:34 AM
Quote
But will they be competitive in other sports too?
Men's track won the last five GCAC outdoor team championships but has not produced many qualifiers for NAIA nationals.

Women's track was second to Xavier in the GCAC last season.

Volleyball is 0-18 all-time against Xavier, so they do not appear to be a threat to Spring Hill at this time.

Women's basketball won 103 games the last five seasons but has not qualified for NAIA nationals since 2007.

Men's basketball has not qualified for nationals since 2008...0-4 in four trips to nationals. Sixth place in GCAC last season. Second-year coach Frederick Summers was the GCAC Coach of the Year at Talladega in 2017-18.

Baseball and softball both finished eight games below .500 last season. Softball did qualify for NAIA nationals opening round, then got shut out in both games. Baseball reached 30 wins four straight years from 2015-18.

Men's cross country upset Xavier for the 2017 GCAC team title, and junior Solomon Stevens was the GCAC individual champ in 2017 and 2018. But his best 8K time at the conference meet would not put him in the top 10 at last year's SIAC meet.

Women's cross country was fourth in the GCAC last season. Best finisher's time would have ranked 26th at SIAC meet.

In the GCAC all-sports standings of 2018-19, Xavier was first with 56 1/2 points, and Edward Waters was second with 41.
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: ASURAMS07 on July 12, 2019, 05:33:00 AM
They need to be in the West.

Its only 5 teams in the West currently.

The East already has 6 teams.

That would even out the divisions.


Yeah but geographically they are further east than anyone else except maybe Savannah. 

It’s kind of weird, but Albany State is closer west than any other school in the east, but not by much.   If they stick to geographically splitting the conference east to west then ASU would switch over.

It's funny you mention that. I was thinking this exact same thing yesterday but didn't wanna jinx ourselves. It makes the most logical sense but I would not like it at all honestly.
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: ncsiacfan on July 12, 2019, 08:13:32 AM
Because they have always played each of the western division teams in football, I believe that they are going to ask Morehouse to move to the west. They did it once before. I Would not like that either.
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: Ram55 on July 12, 2019, 08:57:52 AM
With Savannah State returning I could see Allen and EWC also returning back to the SIAC. We are slowly getting back to the Old SIAC Conference from the old days. With them three our membership will increase to 16 members You can always come Home. :nod: But they would shake up the Football Divisions as the three of them are located on the Eastern side of the SIAC footprint. I could see this as a realignment in Football.

SIAC West
Miles
Tuskegee
Central State
Kentucky State
Lane
Albany State


SIAC East
Benedict
FVSU
Allen (If they decide to return)
Morehouse
Savannah State
EWC (If they decide to return)
CAU

Without Stillman in the west the Divisions will be uneven.

Having Miles, Tuskegee and Albany St. in the same division don't seem fair in football. How would a North vs South alignment work?
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: Valley Girl on July 12, 2019, 10:27:10 AM
They need to be in the West.

Its only 5 teams in the West currently.

The East already has 6 teams.

That would even out the divisions.


Yeah but geographically they are further east than anyone else except maybe Savannah. 

It’s kind of weird, but Albany State is closer west than any other school in the east, but not by much.   If they stick to geographically splitting the conference east to west then ASU would switch over.

It's funny you mention that. I was thinking this exact same thing yesterday but didn't wanna jinx ourselves. It makes the most logical sense but I would not like it at all honestly.

I wouldn’t like it that much either.

With Savannah State returning I could see Allen and EWC also returning back to the SIAC. We are slowly getting back to the Old SIAC Conference from the old days. With them three our membership will increase to 16 members You can always come Home. :nod: But they would shake up the Football Divisions as the three of them are located on the Eastern side of the SIAC footprint. I could see this as a realignment in Football.

SIAC West
Miles
Tuskegee
Central State
Kentucky State
Lane
Albany State


SIAC East
Benedict
FVSU
Allen (If they decide to return)
Morehouse
Savannah State
EWC (If they decide to return)
CAU

Without Stillman in the west the Divisions will be uneven.

Having Miles, Tuskegee and Albany St. in the same division don't seem fair in football. How would a North vs South alignment work?

Probably wouldn’t make much difference.  They could still potentially be in the same division.  Birmingham is in Nothern AL but it is still further south than Atlanta and Columbia

North
Central State
Kentucky State
Lane
Benedict
Morehouse
CAU

South

Miles
Tuskegee
FVSU
ASU
SSU
EWC

They’re still in the same division.  Moving ASU to the west would be the most logical, but I’m not really feeling that.  I know I wouldn’t want to move if I were them.
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: Jay_Thomas on July 12, 2019, 10:42:13 AM

North
Central State
Kentucky State
Lane
Benedict
Morehouse
CAU

South
Miles
Tuskegee
FVSU
ASU
SSU
EWC



(https://media.giphy.com/media/Ow4KRlRhK6ZEc/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: Valley Girl on July 12, 2019, 10:52:44 AM
I know...terrible ain’t it?  But that’s how it would pan out if they did North South - they probably wouldn’t do that anyway.

Maybe they’ll scrap the divisions and just go back to how it was.
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: MilesBear1 on July 12, 2019, 11:58:45 AM
I doubt that they will go back to the old way VG. But I do see them moving to North and South Divisions.Because they like the SIAC Football Championship Game especially the players. I was talking to some Savannah State and Edward Waters Players at the Media Day and they are excited about playing in a Championship Game. Especially EWC Players they said finally we are in a good competitive Conference with a rich tradition in rivalries. I'm going to enjoy going to Florida and Savannah for Conference Sports in the Future. :nod: Our Conference is Growing we are up to 15 Schools after you include LeMoyne-Owen,Paine,and Spring Hill.
Title: Re: Ruffin wants EWC to join SIAC
Post by: Blackcaesar2k5 on July 15, 2019, 10:10:27 PM
I'm not fan seeing EWC leaving NAIA whatsoever. The Tigers could easily become NAIA Football power like Central State was back in the day with right leadership in place..