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Title: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: TrueTrojan on February 11, 2018, 09:03:12 PM
Rumor has it that Chowan has notified the CIAA that they will be leaving the conference in 2019 and will operate all of its sports programs as a member of the ECAC. They are apparently upset that the CIAA no longer supports baseball, which is a big deal at Chowan. Also heard that since Hampton is leaving the MEAC, the conference is talking to Norfolk State about returning to fill the void. Anybody else heard that?
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: JBROB on February 11, 2018, 09:42:20 PM
I don't think Chowan would leave.  They could find a conference to play baseball.
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: BisonBlu on February 11, 2018, 09:46:33 PM
Makes no true sense for either move at the moment. 
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: vsutrojan95 on February 11, 2018, 11:42:52 PM
Chowan is leaving the CIAA for the Conference Carolinas League. They will be an associate member of the CIAA in Football and Women's Bowling. I think that will happen in 2019 if not sooner. Makes sense with amount of sports Chowan offers. The NSU move isn't going to happen I don't think. There may be another Division 2 team that will join the CIAA around the same time but not as a Football Playing member.
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: AggieManiac704 on February 11, 2018, 11:45:17 PM
um. WOW
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: OgRamBall3r on February 12, 2018, 09:42:21 AM
Conference Carolinas seems to be more in line with Chowan's general mission.  Most of the schools are religious-based institutions so I actually seems like a good fit for all the other sports.
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: VSU Trojan 99 on February 12, 2018, 01:13:07 PM
I am on the fence about Chowan remaining a member of the conference only as an associate member for Football and Women’s Bowling.  A part of me says that if you want to leave, take all of the sports out of the conference.  However, on the flip side, having them remain as an associate member will still generate some revenue as far as conference fees.  The Commissioner and the Board of Directors need to sit down and put together a strategic plan for our conference and determine how to strengthen the conference as well as bringing in new member institutions.  I would welcome back Norfolk State University with open arms…I think they left trying to keep up with Hampton back in the late nineties.  The conference should try to get UNC-Pembroke to join the conference since they are now the only Division 2 school without a conference affiliation.  A few MEAC schools could possibly drop back to Division 2 and we could have a sixteen member conference.

Northern Division
Lincoln University of Pennsylvania
Bowie State University
Virginia Union University
Virginia State University
Elizabeth City State University
Coppin State University (if they resumed playing football)
University of Maryland-Eastern Shore (if they resumed playing football)
Norfolk State University

Southern Division
Shaw University
Saint Augustine’s University
Fayetteville State University
Winston-Salem State University
Livingstone College
Johnson C. Smith University
UNC-Pembroke
South Carolina State University

This would be a very strong CIAA.  Since all of these schools play football, each school would have to play seven divisional games, two cross-divisional games and one non-conference game to complete the NCAA mandated ten game schedule to be eligible for the Division 2 playoffs.  The divisional champions would go on to the CIAA Championship game.  For basketball, the tournament would have to start on Monday. 

While we are on the subject, it has been rumored that Lincoln is thinking about leaving too.  Is that true?

Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: Platinum_Sound on February 12, 2018, 01:23:18 PM
I am on the fence about Chowan remaining a member of the conference only as an associate member for Football and Women’s Bowling.  A part of me says that if you want to leave, take all of the sports out of the conference.  However, on the flip side, having them remain as an associate member will still generate some revenue as far as conference fees.  The Commissioner and the Board of Directors need to sit down and put together a strategic plan for our conference and determine how to strengthen the conference as well as bringing in new member institutions.  I would welcome back Norfolk State University with open arms…I think they left trying to keep up with Hampton back in the late nineties.  The conference should try to get UNC-Pembroke to join the conference since they are now the only Division 2 school without a conference affiliation.  A few MEAC schools could possibly drop back to Division 2 and we could have a sixteen member conference.

Northern Division
Lincoln University of Pennsylvania
Bowie State University
Virginia Union University
Virginia State University
Elizabeth City State University
Coppin State University (if they resumed playing football)
University of Maryland-Eastern Shore (if they resumed playing football?
Norfolk State University

Southern Division
Shaw University
Saint Augustine’s University
Fayetteville State University
Winston-Salem State University
Livingstone College
Johnson C. Smith University
UNC-Pembroke
South Carolina State University

This would be a very strong CIAA.  Since all of these schools play football, each school would have to play seven divisional games, two cross-divisional games and one non-conference game to complete the NCAA mandated ten game schedule to be eligible for the Division 2 playoffs.  The divisional champions would go on to the CIAA Championship game.  For basketball, the tournament would have to start on Monday. 

While we are on the subject, it has been rumored that Lincoln is thinking about leaving too.  Is that true?

UNCP just agreed a year or two ago to a schedule agreement in football with the SAC. Don't see them leaving for the CIAA. Just don't. Barton College in Wilson announced the decision to add football. I could see the CIAA making a run at them for football possibly.
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: Ram55 on February 12, 2018, 01:30:15 PM
I am on the fence about Chowan remaining a member of the conference only as an associate member for Football and Women’s Bowling.  A part of me says that if you want to leave, take all of the sports out of the conference.  However, on the flip side, having them remain as an associate member will still generate some revenue as far as conference fees.  The Commissioner and the Board of Directors need to sit down and put together a strategic plan for our conference and determine how to strengthen the conference as well as bringing in new member institutions.  I would welcome back Norfolk State University with open arms…I think they left trying to keep up with Hampton back in the late nineties.  The conference should try to get UNC-Pembroke to join the conference since they are now the only Division 2 school without a conference affiliation.  A few MEAC schools could possibly drop back to Division 2 and we could have a sixteen member conference.

Northern Division
Lincoln University of Pennsylvania
Bowie State University
Virginia Union University
Virginia State University
Elizabeth City State University
Coppin State University (if they resumed playing football)
University of Maryland-Eastern Shore (if they resumed playing football?
Norfolk State University

Southern Division
Shaw University
Saint Augustine’s University
Fayetteville State University
Winston-Salem State University
Livingstone College
Johnson C. Smith University
UNC-Pembroke
South Carolina State University

This would be a very strong CIAA.  Since all of these schools play football, each school would have to play seven divisional games, two cross-divisional games and one non-conference game to complete the NCAA mandated ten game schedule to be eligible for the Division 2 playoffs.  The divisional champions would go on to the CIAA Championship game.  For basketball, the tournament would have to start on Monday. 

While we are on the subject, it has been rumored that Lincoln is thinking about leaving too.  Is that true?

"This would be a very strong CIAA" is an understatement. This would be an amazingly strong conference, but things would need to work out perfect for this to happen. If the MEAC lose that many of its schools to DII, then some others would surely follow. Three or four of the MEAC schools are legit FCS programs but need just a little more funding to be competitive. So I hope these schools leaving won't cause the whole conference to move down. I think right now, A&T, NCCU and FAMU are real fcs schools. Maybe they could join the Big South. But this just my opinion.
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: AggieManiac704 on February 12, 2018, 01:33:48 PM
The landscape of our conferences are gonna look real different in the next 5-10 i seeeee

Just for conversation sake (and because im bored on this conference call), why would SCSU go to the CIAA and not the SIAC?
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: VSU Trojan 99 on February 12, 2018, 01:43:05 PM
The landscape of our conferences are gonna look real different in the next 5-10 i seeeee

Just for conversation sake (and because im bored on this conference call), why would SCSU go to the CIAA and not the SIAC?

 :lmao: at your comment (and because im bored on this conference call)...

I just threw them in the mix to think outside the box.  Also, the traveling distance wouldn't be that far for them to be in the Southern Division. 
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: Ram55 on February 12, 2018, 01:48:33 PM
The landscape of our conferences are gonna look real different in the next 5-10 i seeeee

Just for conversation sake (and because im bored on this conference call), why would SCSU go to the CIAA and not the SIAC?

 :lmao: at your comment (and because im bored on this conference call)...

I just threw them in the mix to think outside the box.  Also, the traveling distance wouldn't be that far for them to be in the Southern Division.

SCSU would be playing in the CIAA Southern Division where the larger State schools would be more attractive than playing all those private SIAC schools. The MEAC schools have a big brother relationship with the CIAA. The SWAC has that same relationship with the SIAC. SCSU neighborhood is North Carolina and Virginia.
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: AggieManiac704 on February 12, 2018, 02:00:51 PM
UMES and Coppin could drop down and not miss a beat with no football......tbh
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: ‘87 Alum on February 12, 2018, 02:41:21 PM
The landscape of our conferences are gonna look real different in the next 5-10 i seeeee

Just for conversation sake (and because im bored on this conference call), why would SCSU go to the CIAA and not the SIAC?

 :lmao: at your comment (and because im bored on this conference call)...

I just threw them in the mix to think outside the box.  Also, the traveling distance wouldn't be that far for them to be in the Southern Division.

SCSU would be playing in the CIAA Southern Division where the larger State schools would be more attractive than playing all those private SIAC schools. The MEAC schools have a big brother relationship with the CIAA. The SWAC has that same relationship with the SIAC. SCSU neighborhood is North Carolina and Virginia.

:lmao: @ all those private SIAC schools

Dude you funnier than a mofo.....did one of those private SIAC schools Motumbo one of your applications?
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: Ram-Fan on February 12, 2018, 06:31:26 PM
Rumor has it that Chowan has notified the CIAA that they will be leaving the conference in 2019 and will operate all of its sports programs as a member of the ECAC. They are apparently upset that the CIAA no longer supports baseball, which is a big deal at Chowan. Also heard that since Hampton is leaving the MEAC, the conference is talking to Norfolk State about returning to fill the void. Anybody else heard that?
Chowan should be happy about CIAA not having Baseball. They can't beat WSSU.

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Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: OgRamBall3r on February 12, 2018, 07:05:47 PM
Tell me, why everyone keep bringing up NSU? Did they make an announcement about thinking about dropping back? I havent heard anything.
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: VSU Trojan 99 on February 12, 2018, 08:23:19 PM
Tell me, why everyone keep bringing up NSU? Did they make an announcement about thinking about dropping back? I havent heard anything.

They should drop back to be competitive.  How many winning seasons of football have they had since leaving the CIAA?  Also, they should come back when a D3 school and a D2 school defeats you in basketball.
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: LULions on February 12, 2018, 09:00:37 PM
I am on the fence about Chowan remaining a member of the conference only as an associate member for Football and Women’s Bowling.  A part of me says that if you want to leave, take all of the sports out of the conference.  However, on the flip side, having them remain as an associate member will still generate some revenue as far as conference fees.  The Commissioner and the Board of Directors need to sit down and put together a strategic plan for our conference and determine how to strengthen the conference as well as bringing in new member institutions.  I would welcome back Norfolk State University with open arms…I think they left trying to keep up with Hampton back in the late nineties.  The conference should try to get UNC-Pembroke to join the conference since they are now the only Division 2 school without a conference affiliation.  A few MEAC schools could possibly drop back to Division 2 and we could have a sixteen member conference.

Northern Division
Lincoln University of Pennsylvania
Bowie State University
Virginia Union University
Virginia State University
Elizabeth City State University
Coppin State University (if they resumed playing football)
University of Maryland-Eastern Shore (if they resumed playing football)
Norfolk State University

Southern Division
Shaw University
Saint Augustine’s University
Fayetteville State University
Winston-Salem State University
Livingstone College
Johnson C. Smith University
UNC-Pembroke
South Carolina State University

This would be a very strong CIAA.  Since all of these schools play football, each school would have to play seven divisional games, two cross-divisional games and one non-conference game to complete the NCAA mandated ten game schedule to be eligible for the Division 2 playoffs.  The divisional champions would go on to the CIAA Championship game.  For basketball, the tournament would have to start on Monday. 

While we are on the subject, it has been rumored that Lincoln is thinking about leaving too.  Is that true?

There is no truth Lincoln is leaving the CIAA.  Lincoln has joined the ECC as an associate for Women's Soccer, and Baseball.

http://www.lulions.com/news/2018/1/25/general-east-coast-conference-adds-lincoln-as-associate-member-for-baseball-and-womens-soccer.aspx?path=wsoc
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: OgRamBall3r on February 13, 2018, 01:14:44 AM
Tell me, why everyone keep bringing up NSU? Did they make an announcement about thinking about dropping back? I havent heard anything.

They should drop back to be competitive.  How many winning seasons of football have they had since leaving the CIAA?  Also, they should come back when a D3 school and a D2 school defeats you in basketball.

Oooh kaaay! Didnt know bout them  losses. Damn NSU! Still does not mean they leaving. Maybe they should think about it?
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: Ram55 on February 13, 2018, 08:19:05 AM
Tell me, why everyone keep bringing up NSU? Did they make an announcement about thinking about dropping back? I havent heard anything.

They should drop back to be competitive.  How many winning seasons of football have they had since leaving the CIAA?  Also, they should come back when a D3 school and a D2 school defeats you in basketball.

In basketball the MEAC is basically a DII conference. How many CIAA and SIAC schools would be competitive in the MEAC? CAU, The House, VSU, Smith, Shaw and a few others would be in the mix.
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: punchy on February 13, 2018, 09:02:40 AM
Tell me, why everyone keep bringing up NSU? Did they make an announcement about thinking about dropping back? I havent heard anything.

They should drop back to be competitive.  How many winning seasons of football have they had since leaving the CIAA?  Also, they should come back when a D3 school and a D2 school defeats you in basketball.

Oooh kaaay! Didnt know bout them  losses. Damn NSU! Still does not mean they leaving. Maybe they should think about it?

I found out that we've had injuries to key players, which contributed to our losses to those D2 and D3 teams. Our record in the MEAC right now is 7-4. I would say that we are competitive now! So,,,,if we SHOULD just so decide to drop back down to D2 and the CIAA, yall will be the first to know!  :nod: :hugs:
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: Professor on February 13, 2018, 09:25:52 AM
Tell me, why everyone keep bringing up NSU? Did they make an announcement about thinking about dropping back? I havent heard anything.

They should drop back to be competitive.  How many winning seasons of football have they had since leaving the CIAA?  Also, they should come back when a D3 school and a D2 school defeats you in basketball.

In basketball the MEAC is basically a DII conference. How many CIAA and SIAC schools would be competitive in the MEAC? CAU, The House, VSU, Smith, Shaw and a few others would be in the mix.


I know one that wouldn't
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: VSU Trojan 99 on February 13, 2018, 09:27:40 AM
Tell me, why everyone keep bringing up NSU? Did they make an announcement about thinking about dropping back? I havent heard anything.

They should drop back to be competitive.  How many winning seasons of football have they had since leaving the CIAA?  Also, they should come back when a D3 school and a D2 school defeats you in basketball.

Oooh kaaay! Didnt know bout them  losses. Damn NSU! Still does not mean they leaving. Maybe they should think about it?

I found out that we've had injuries to key players, which contributed to our losses to those D2 and D3 teams. Our record in the MEAC right now is 7-4. I would say that we are competitive now! So,,,,if we SHOULD just so decide to drop back down to D2 and the CIAA, yall will be the first to know!  :nod: :hugs:

How many winning seasons has Norfolk State had since joining the MEAC in football and basketball?  Come on back home, be competitive and renew the rivalries...you won't beat us though. ;D
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: AggieManiac704 on February 13, 2018, 10:55:49 AM
The recruiting landscape of D2 is much different.....who knows how it would translate tbh.
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: punchy on February 13, 2018, 11:24:47 AM
Tell me, why everyone keep bringing up NSU? Did they make an announcement about thinking about dropping back? I havent heard anything.

They should drop back to be competitive.  How many winning seasons of football have they had since leaving the CIAA?  Also, they should come back when a D3 school and a D2 school defeats you in basketball.

Oooh kaaay! Didnt know bout them  losses. Damn NSU! Still does not mean they leaving. Maybe they should think about it?

I found out that we've had injuries to key players, which contributed to our losses to those D2 and D3 teams. Our record in the MEAC right now is 7-4. I would say that we are competitive now! So,,,,if we SHOULD just so decide to drop back down to D2 and the CIAA, yall will be the first to know!  :nod: :hugs:

How many winning seasons has Norfolk State had since joining the MEAC in football and basketball?  Come on back home, be competitive and renew the rivalries...you won't beat us though. ;D

No. How about Va State just move on UP to the MEAC. Yall got the facilities, and you all know how to win in the CIAA. So bring it to the MEAC, and let's see how yall would do! Oh, and we will whup that a--, just like we used to before we started playing yall again last year!  :nod:
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: VSU Trojan 99 on February 13, 2018, 01:37:02 PM
Tell me, why everyone keep bringing up NSU? Did they make an announcement about thinking about dropping back? I havent heard anything.

They should drop back to be competitive.  How many winning seasons of football have they had since leaving the CIAA?  Also, they should come back when a D3 school and a D2 school defeats you in basketball.

Oooh kaaay! Didnt know bout them  losses. Damn NSU! Still does not mean they leaving. Maybe they should think about it?

I found out that we've had injuries to key players, which contributed to our losses to those D2 and D3 teams. Our record in the MEAC right now is 7-4. I would say that we are competitive now! So,,,,if we SHOULD just so decide to drop back down to D2 and the CIAA, yall will be the first to know!  :nod: :hugs:

How many winning seasons has Norfolk State had since joining the MEAC in football and basketball?  Come on back home, be competitive and renew the rivalries...you won't beat us though. ;D

No. How about Va State just move on UP to the MEAC. Yall got the facilities, and you all know how to win in the CIAA. So bring it to the MEAC, and let's see how yall would do! Oh, and we will whup that a--, just like we used to before we started playing yall again last year!  :nod:

We are just fine at Division 2 where we are winning.  Also, we don't need the D1 title to make us the best HBCU in the Commonwealth of Virginia.  Please answer my question... How many winning seasons have you guys had in football and basketball since joining the MEAC twenty years ago?  This should tell you whether the choice was right for you to move up to D1.

Also, I think you moved up to D1 after Hampton did in 1995 just to keep up with the Joneses.   
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: punchy on February 13, 2018, 01:48:47 PM
Tell me, why everyone keep bringing up NSU? Did they make an announcement about thinking about dropping back? I havent heard anything.

They should drop back to be competitive.  How many winning seasons of football have they had since leaving the CIAA?  Also, they should come back when a D3 school and a D2 school defeats you in basketball.

Oooh kaaay! Didnt know bout them  losses. Damn NSU! Still does not mean they leaving. Maybe they should think about it?

I found out that we've had injuries to key players, which contributed to our losses to those D2 and D3 teams. Our record in the MEAC right now is 7-4. I would say that we are competitive now! So,,,,if we SHOULD just so decide to drop back down to D2 and the CIAA, yall will be the first to know!  :nod: :hugs:

How many winning seasons has Norfolk State had since joining the MEAC in football and basketball?  Come on back home, be competitive and renew the rivalries...you won't beat us though. ;D

No. How about Va State just move on UP to the MEAC. Yall got the facilities, and you all know how to win in the CIAA. So bring it to the MEAC, and let's see how yall would do! Oh, and we will whup that a--, just like we used to before we started playing yall again last year!  :nod:

We are just fine at Division 2 where we are winning.  Also, we don't need the D1 title to make us the best HBCU in the Commonwealth of Virginia.  Please answer my question... How many winning seasons have you guys had in football and basketball since joining the MEAC twenty years ago?  This should tell you whether the choice was right for you to move up to D1.

Also, I think you moved up to D1 after Hampton did in 1995 just to keep up with the Joneses.   

I don't know. I haven't kept count. I do know this: We couldn't have won the MEAC, play and beat #2 seeded Missouri in the first round of the NCAA Tournament if we were still D2. Hampton couldn't beat Iowa State in the Big Dance if Hampton was still D2. Coppin State couldn't beat South Carolina in the Big Dance if Coppin was still D2. My point is, we are here, exactly where we want to be. And our move up to FCS/D1 was a long range plan implemented by former President Wilson, so if Hampton jumped up before us, fine,,,,,,so what? We are here, and we're good!
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: VSU Trojan 99 on February 13, 2018, 01:59:01 PM
Tell me, why everyone keep bringing up NSU? Did they make an announcement about thinking about dropping back? I havent heard anything.

They should drop back to be competitive.  How many winning seasons of football have they had since leaving the CIAA?  Also, they should come back when a D3 school and a D2 school defeats you in basketball.

Oooh kaaay! Didnt know bout them  losses. Damn NSU! Still does not mean they leaving. Maybe they should think about it?

I found out that we've had injuries to key players, which contributed to our losses to those D2 and D3 teams. Our record in the MEAC right now is 7-4. I would say that we are competitive now! So,,,,if we SHOULD just so decide to drop back down to D2 and the CIAA, yall will be the first to know!  :nod: :hugs:

How many winning seasons has Norfolk State had since joining the MEAC in football and basketball?  Come on back home, be competitive and renew the rivalries...you won't beat us though. ;D

No. How about Va State just move on UP to the MEAC. Yall got the facilities, and you all know how to win in the CIAA. So bring it to the MEAC, and let's see how yall would do! Oh, and we will whup that a--, just like we used to before we started playing yall again last year!  :nod:

We are just fine at Division 2 where we are winning.  Also, we don't need the D1 title to make us the best HBCU in the Commonwealth of Virginia.  Please answer my question... How many winning seasons have you guys had in football and basketball since joining the MEAC twenty years ago?  This should tell you whether the choice was right for you to move up to D1.

Also, I think you moved up to D1 after Hampton did in 1995 just to keep up with the Joneses.   

I don't know. I haven't kept count. I do know this: We couldn't have won the MEAC, play and beat #2 seeded Missouri in the first round of the NCAA Tournament if we were still D2. Hampton couldn't beat Iowa State in the Big Dance if Hampton was still D2. Coppin State couldn't beat South Carolina in the Big Dance if Coppin was still D2. My point is, we are here, exactly where we want to be. And our move up to FCS/D1 was a long range plan implemented by former President Wilson, so if Hampton jumped up before us, fine,,,,,,so what? We are here, and we're good!

Those wins were once in a blue moon opportunities.  When you decide to come back home, we will welcome you back with open arms and leave the light on for you.
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: Ram55 on February 13, 2018, 04:08:48 PM
Tell me, why everyone keep bringing up NSU? Did they make an announcement about thinking about dropping back? I havent heard anything.

They should drop back to be competitive.  How many winning seasons of football have they had since leaving the CIAA?  Also, they should come back when a D3 school and a D2 school defeats you in basketball.

In basketball the MEAC is basically a DII conference. How many CIAA and SIAC schools would be competitive in the MEAC? CAU, The House, VSU, Smith, Shaw and a few others would be in the mix.


I know one that wouldn't

You are right about that. Some local high school teams could beat us. I'm also sure several DIII schools would beat us as well. The truth doesn't bother me. So why can't you admit that the MEAC is basically a DII conference in basketball?
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: EPJr on February 13, 2018, 06:26:30 PM
UMES and Coppin could drop down and not miss a beat with no football......tbh
if you are correct and Chowan will still be a football affiliate
we only need one BB school
so UMES or Coppin (who has the best overall sports program?)
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: FunCkMaster on February 13, 2018, 10:51:12 PM
Man, ya'll been runnin' this UMES and Coppin Doody-ka-kah in football for a minute...That ain't happenin' (at least no time in the forseeable future. I'd love to see it happen, but they have been trying for so long and not gettin' anywhere very fast. They were both lucky to get club-level football going).

....So anyway,  y'all might wanna stop dreamin.'
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: punchy on February 14, 2018, 08:10:00 AM
UMES and Coppin could drop down and not miss a beat with no football......tbh
if you are correct and Chowan will still be a football affiliate
we only need one BB school
so UMES or Coppin (who has the best overall sports program?)

They aren't gonna do that because they have too many opportunities to play other D1 basketball schools for that paycheck. Coppin State had a death row schedule a few years ago before MEAC games began.
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: punchy on February 14, 2018, 08:37:25 AM
Man, ya'll been runnin' this UMES and Coppin Doody-ka-kah in football for a minute...That ain't happenin' (at least no time in the forseeable future. I'd love to see it happen, but they have been trying for so long and not gettin' anywhere very fast. They were both lucky to get club-level football going).

....So anyway,  y'all might wanna stop dreamin.'
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I knew Coppin had a club team; but I didn't know UMES had a club team?!?!? :o
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: punchy on February 14, 2018, 08:40:30 AM
Tell me, why everyone keep bringing up NSU? Did they make an announcement about thinking about dropping back? I havent heard anything.

They should drop back to be competitive.  How many winning seasons of football have they had since leaving the CIAA?  Also, they should come back when a D3 school and a D2 school defeats you in basketball.

Oooh kaaay! Didnt know bout them  losses. Damn NSU! Still does not mean they leaving. Maybe they should think about it?

I found out that we've had injuries to key players, which contributed to our losses to those D2 and D3 teams. Our record in the MEAC right now is 7-4. I would say that we are competitive now! So,,,,if we SHOULD just so decide to drop back down to D2 and the CIAA, yall will be the first to know!  :nod: :hugs:

How many winning seasons has Norfolk State had since joining the MEAC in football and basketball?  Come on back home, be competitive and renew the rivalries...you won't beat us though. ;D

No. How about Va State just move on UP to the MEAC. Yall got the facilities, and you all know how to win in the CIAA. So bring it to the MEAC, and let's see how yall would do! Oh, and we will whup that a--, just like we used to before we started playing yall again last year!  :nod:

We are just fine at Division 2 where we are winning.  Also, we don't need the D1 title to make us the best HBCU in the Commonwealth of Virginia.  Please answer my question... How many winning seasons have you guys had in football and basketball since joining the MEAC twenty years ago?  This should tell you whether the choice was right for you to move up to D1.

Also, I think you moved up to D1 after Hampton did in 1995 just to keep up with the Joneses.   

I don't know. I haven't kept count. I do know this: We couldn't have won the MEAC, play and beat #2 seeded Missouri in the first round of the NCAA Tournament if we were still D2. Hampton couldn't beat Iowa State in the Big Dance if Hampton was still D2. Coppin State couldn't beat South Carolina in the Big Dance if Coppin was still D2. My point is, we are here, exactly where we want to be. And our move up to FCS/D1 was a long range plan implemented by former President Wilson, so if Hampton jumped up before us, fine,,,,,,so what? We are here, and we're good!

Those wins were once in a blue moon opportunities.  When you decide to come back home, we will welcome you back with open arms and leave the light on for you.

Oh, we know!  :lmao: :hugs: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: Daddy Bulldog on February 14, 2018, 10:28:45 AM
What I'd miss the most if Chowan left the CIAA, would be Whitley's BBQ in Murfreesboro...
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: VSU Trojan 99 on February 14, 2018, 10:42:07 AM
UMES and Coppin could drop down and not miss a beat with no football......tbh
if you are correct and Chowan will still be a football affiliate
we only need one BB school
so UMES or Coppin (who has the best overall sports program?)

They aren't gonna do that because they have too many opportunities to play other D1 basketball schools for that paycheck. Coppin State had a death row schedule a few years ago before MEAC games began.

The paycheck still isn't helping the program at the D1 level. 
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: VSU Trojan 99 on February 14, 2018, 10:43:50 AM
What I'd miss the most if Chowan left the CIAA, would be Whitley's BBQ in Murfreesboro...

The food at Whitley's Barbecue is great. 
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: punchy on February 14, 2018, 11:30:06 AM
UMES and Coppin could drop down and not miss a beat with no football......tbh
if you are correct and Chowan will still be a football affiliate
we only need one BB school
so UMES or Coppin (who has the best overall sports program?)

They aren't gonna do that because they have too many opportunities to play other D1 basketball schools for that paycheck. Coppin State had a death row schedule a few years ago before MEAC games began.

The paycheck still isn't helping the program at the D1 level.

I would imagine it's helping keep the other olympic sports at the D1 level, along with Title IX requirements.
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: Professor on February 14, 2018, 12:00:35 PM
Exactly
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: EPJr on February 14, 2018, 01:24:39 PM
What I'd miss the most if Chowan left the CIAA, would be Whitley's BBQ in Murfreesboro...

you can still go during FB season!
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: EL JAY on February 14, 2018, 04:18:02 PM
UMES and Coppin could drop down and not miss a beat with no football......tbh
if you are correct and Chowan will still be a football affiliate
we only need one BB school
so UMES or Coppin (who has the best overall sports program?)

They aren't gonna do that because they have too many opportunities to play other D1 basketball schools for that paycheck. Coppin State had a death row schedule a few years ago before MEAC games began.

The paycheck still isn't helping the program at the D1 level.

What is the CURRENT payout for MEAC schools?
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: BisonBlu on February 14, 2018, 08:27:36 PM
UMES and Coppin won’t be going anywhere and neither will add football. If anything is to change I’m sure the MEAC will be aggressive in looking to add both Bowie State and Virginia State.
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: VSU Trojan 99 on February 14, 2018, 09:30:33 PM
UMES and Coppin won’t be going anywhere and neither will add football. If anything is to change I’m sure the MEAC will be aggressive in looking to add both Bowie State and Virginia State.

Why would we move up and barely be competitive?  We're both making names for ourselves in D2.  How many winning seasons have the Bison had since moving to D1?  Some of us are caught up on D1 and that is not where it's at in my opinion.  A good number of the MEAC schools operate their athletic programs on a D2 budget and it shows.  We really don't play money games at the D2 level...we go out and play the games.  Just take a look at MEAC basketball...the majority of the schools get paid to get whipped.  At the D2 level, we play the games and our records speak for themselves.  Also, the only schools in the MEAC that should be there are NCCU and NC A&T.  They have proven they can win.  Lastly, in the CIAA, we play to win National Championships, not a bowl game.
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: FunCkMaster on February 14, 2018, 10:10:54 PM
I highly doubt Bowie will be making a move anytime soon to the MEAC. I heard folks talking about that 5-7 years ago. Ain't jack diddly happened. I think we are good where we are.
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: FunCkMaster on February 14, 2018, 10:14:29 PM
Man, ya'll been runnin' this UMES and Coppin Doody-ka-kah in football for a minute...That ain't happenin' (at least no time in the forseeable future. I'd love to see it happen, but they have been trying for so long and not gettin' anywhere very fast. They were both lucky to get club-level football going).

....So anyway,  y'all might wanna stop dreamin.'
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I knew Coppin had a club team; but I didn't know UMES had a club team?!?!? :o

https://www.umes.edu/Football/Pages/Football-Club/
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: BisonBlu on February 15, 2018, 04:07:10 AM
UMES and Coppin won’t be going anywhere and neither will add football. If anything is to change I’m sure the MEAC will be aggressive in looking to add both Bowie State and Virginia State.

Why would we move up and barely be competitive?  We're both making names for ourselves in D2.  How many winning seasons have the Bison had since moving to D1?  Some of us are caught up on D1 and that is not where it's at in my opinion.  A good number of the MEAC schools operate their athletic programs on a D2 budget and it shows.  We really don't play money games at the D2 level...we go out and play the games.  Just take a look at MEAC basketball...the majority of the schools get paid to get whipped.  At the D2 level, we play the games and our records speak for themselves.  Also, the only schools in the MEAC that should be there are NCCU and NC A&T.  They have proven they can win.  Lastly, in the CIAA, we play to win National Championships, not a bowl game.

I doubt that it will be long before the Bison turn the corner. Like Howard, several schools in the MEAC are National Brands. There’s a reason why women are able to purchase Howard Apperal at Victoria Seceret. Since moving up our enrollment has stayed at over 8,500 students and endowment has more than doubled to not being well over 700M. With that being said, Football and Men’s BB haven’t been a consistent other than a hand full or seasons. But that is mainly because of stiff admissions standards and in adequate funding at the D1 level. But things look to be swinging in the right direction under great administrative leadership and solid recruiting within those programs. Coach London looks to be the real deal and his staff has stayed put after a phenomenal season. The next ten months in Washington, DC may be the most important to the University and it will make or break the vision of athletics for the future. 
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: Professor on May 22, 2018, 04:01:26 PM
Welp Chowan has officially left
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: AggieManiac704 on May 22, 2018, 04:07:32 PM
.....yall folks be knowin stuff man.....

.....uhhhh NSU....what yall doin.....while we being all nosy nshyt
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: BisonBlu on May 22, 2018, 05:38:47 PM
.....yall folks be knowin stuff man.....

.....uhhhh NSU....what yall doin.....while we being all nosy nshyt

 :lmao:
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: EPJr on May 22, 2018, 08:11:38 PM
Chowan is being replaced by Chaflin
old news
since y'all like rumors
how about NSU joining Hampton in the BSC replacing Liberty
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: JBROB on May 22, 2018, 11:06:56 PM
I don't think Norfolk State is going anywhere. I don't think there fans would buy into the move to the CIAA or the Big South.
Title: Re: Chowan leaving CIAA and Norfolk State moving back?
Post by: FunCkMaster on May 23, 2018, 09:39:59 AM
Tell me, why everyone keep bringing up NSU? Did they make an announcement about thinking about dropping back? I havent heard anything.

They should drop back to be competitive.  How many winning seasons of football have they had since leaving the CIAA?  Also, they should come back when a D3 school and a D2 school defeats you in basketball.

In basketball the MEAC is basically a DII conference. How many CIAA and SIAC schools would be competitive in the MEAC? CAU, The House, VSU, Smith, Shaw and a few others would be in the mix.

Bowie