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Title: WHAT THE HECK? !! T.U.
Post by: skegeemurch74 on November 03, 2016, 12:12:36 PM
I WAS LOOKING AT THE POLLS,,, THE D2 COACHES POLL HAS T.U. RANKED 14 AND PEMBROKE AT # 16,,, THE D2 .COM POLL HAS T.U. RANKED AT # 18 AND PEMBROKE AT # 20...KEEP IN MIND T.U. HAS BEATEN PEMBROKE THIS SEASON,,,THEN I LOOK AT THE REGION POLL AND THEY HAVE PEMBROKE RANKED AT # 2 AND T.U. AT # 4 ????? WTF??!!

I WOULD NOT BE SUPRISED IF THEY DID NOT LET US IN THE PLAYOFFS AT ALL THIS YEAR.

JUST MY OPINION
Title: Re: WHAT THE HECK? !! T.U.
Post by: jag4life on November 03, 2016, 12:27:45 PM
You won't make the playoffs without a waiver regardless of your ranking
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Post by: Jaimac on November 03, 2016, 12:33:52 PM
http://onnidan1.com/forum/index.php?topic=116743.0


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Post by: EL JAY on November 03, 2016, 02:05:51 PM
Bruh...season over...beat Miles...turn in equipment...hit recruiting trail...get Guards, Kicker and depth...have a complete schedule next year...do it all over again.

We good....
Title: Re: WHAT THE HECK? !! T.U.
Post by: WileECoyote06 on November 03, 2016, 02:27:47 PM
I WAS LOOKING AT THE POLLS,,, THE D2 COACHES POLL HAS T.U. RANKED 14 AND PEMBROKE AT # 16,,, THE D2 .COM POLL HAS T.U. RANKED AT # 18 AND PEMBROKE AT # 20...KEEP IN MIND T.U. HAS BEATEN PEMBROKE THIS SEASON,,,THEN I LOOK AT THE REGION POLL AND THEY HAVE PEMBROKE RANKED AT # 2 AND T.U. AT # 4 ????? WTF??!!

I WOULD NOT BE SUPRISED IF THEY DID NOT LET US IN THE PLAYOFFS AT ALL THIS YEAR.

JUST MY OPINION

Not how the regional polls work anyway.  In other words, you got the worse loss on your resume.  Usually the D2 committee fixes that at the end though as they go past the 'calculations', to order teams.  Newberry will probably rise to #2, with yall at #3 and Pembroke at #4.  Now as far as the waiver goes. . who knows.
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Post by: klg14 on November 03, 2016, 02:48:02 PM
Bruh...season over...beat Miles...turn in equipment...hit recruiting trail...get Guards, Kicker and depth...have a complete schedule next year...do it all over again.

We good....

Yes, we need a kicker.   >:(
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Post by: Shelt from Skegee on November 03, 2016, 04:17:55 PM
Actually the kicker is fine. We need a line to block for him when he's kicking.
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Post by: Brother Tony on November 03, 2016, 05:08:54 PM
I know where they can find everything they need.
 :nod:
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Post by: klg14 on November 03, 2016, 05:11:31 PM
I know where they can find everything they need.
 :nod:

Yes, your 'Neck of the Woods.'   :nod:
Title: Re: WHAT THE HECK? !! T.U.
Post by: EL JAY on November 03, 2016, 05:30:25 PM
I know where they can find everything they need.
 :nod:

Yes, your 'Neck of the Woods.'   :nod:

AND Short and Long Snapper.......
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Post by: Golden Kitten on November 03, 2016, 05:52:41 PM
I think I'd rather have our kicker on the D-line where he belongs...we need a kicker. I think our little punter is ok.
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Post by: RamMan4Life on November 04, 2016, 10:10:30 AM
All of your needs shall be met in da bottom....where we have an overabundance of athletes who get their work in the classroom done BUT HBCUs are late to the table....
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Post by: UNA08 on November 04, 2016, 01:24:54 PM
Link for the ranking criteria: http://web1.ncaa.org/champsel_new/exec/staticpdfrank?doWhat=publicrankingsRedirect&sportCode=MFB&region=1395&division=2 (http://web1.ncaa.org/champsel_new/exec/staticpdfrank?doWhat=publicrankingsRedirect&sportCode=MFB&region=1395&division=2)

The biggest part of the calculation is Div II Win %
Tuskegee - 0.833 (5-1)
Pembroke - 0.857 (6-1)

Tuskegee is behind due to playing one less D2 game.

2nd biggest part of the calculation is DII Weighted OWP-OOWP, also known as SOS:
Tuskegee - 0.539
Pembroke - 0.509

Tuskegee is ahead here but SOS only really comes into play if it is an overwhelming difference or if you have the same D2 winning percentage.

Even though Tuskegee has an impressive win versus FAMU, non-D2 wins and losses are not used in the playoff calculation.
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Post by: MilesBear1 on November 04, 2016, 01:53:41 PM
Alrighty then there you have it. :nod:
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Post by: Brother Tony on November 04, 2016, 04:47:40 PM
The young punter is from Palm Beach County.
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Post by: tiger4life on November 04, 2016, 10:48:38 PM
I agree Shelt after first game he did kick the ball pretty well. That line lack of blocking and a low snap cost that game. Four out of six field goals and 26 of 30 extra points. Snapper is crucial to all of the kicking game.
Title: Re: WHAT THE HECK? !! T.U.
Post by: tiger4life on November 05, 2016, 02:29:12 PM
How are teams are able to schedule games on SIAC championship day not knowing if they will reach the Championship? Does that give the second place team in the Division the chance to play for championship?  I think Stillman did this a few years back and now I see Benedict also did this year.
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Post by: Que82 on November 05, 2016, 05:24:22 PM
How are teams are able to schedule games on SIAC championship day not knowing if they will reach the Championship? Does that give the second place team in the Division the chance to play for championship?  I think Stillman did this a few years back and now I see Benedict also did this year.
Benedict had a clause that they would play Point only if they didn't go to the championship.  The real question is how was TU able to say they were playing the loser of the FCC.  Setting a bad precedent.  When you screw yourself you should be made to live with it IMHO.  
Title: Re: WHAT THE HECK? !! T.U.
Post by: EL JAY on November 05, 2016, 06:19:57 PM
How are teams are able to schedule games on SIAC championship day not knowing if they will reach the Championship? Does that give the second place team in the Division the chance to play for championship?  I think Stillman did this a few years back and now I see Benedict also did this year.
Benedict had a clause that they would play Point only if they didn't go to the championship.  The real question is how was TU able to say they were playing the loser of the FCC.  Setting a bad precedent.  When you screw yourself you should be made to live with it IMHO.  

Back off potna.....this is my chance to get out the house next weekend before some company comes through.



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Post by: Wildcat1025 on November 05, 2016, 06:23:03 PM
How are teams are able to schedule games on SIAC championship day not knowing if they will reach the Championship? Does that give the second place team in the Division the chance to play for championship?  I think Stillman did this a few years back and now I see Benedict also did this year.
Benedict had a clause that they would play Point only if they didn't go to the championship.  The real question is how was TU able to say they were playing the loser of the FCC.  Setting a bad precedent.  When you screw yourself you should be made to live with it IMHO.  


I'm truly hoping TU wins next weeks and gets to the playoffs but I 1,000% agree it sets a bad precedent. The TU athletic department and others will learn from this going forward
Title: Re: WHAT THE HECK? !! T.U.
Post by: Que82 on November 05, 2016, 07:29:36 PM
How are teams are able to schedule games on SIAC championship day not knowing if they will reach the Championship? Does that give the second place team in the Division the chance to play for championship?  I think Stillman did this a few years back and now I see Benedict also did this year.
Benedict had a clause that they would play Point only if they didn't go to the championship.  The real question is how was TU able to say they were playing the loser of the FCC.  Setting a bad precedent.  When you screw yourself you should be made to live with it IMHO.  

Back off potna.....this is my chance to get out the house next weekend before some company comes through.




:lol:
Title: Re: WHAT THE HECK? !! T.U.
Post by: Ojuice TI75 on November 05, 2016, 09:55:53 PM
i honestly believe Tuskegee's AD & coaching staff knew the risk of a regular season loss when they published this 9 game schedule with only 3 home games. There was discussion about having to go undefeated and play in the SIAC championship game to qualify for the D2 playoffs.

Second thought is the SIAC should not separate division record from conference record the champion should be determined by the conference record. Look at other major conferences, it's as if your non-division games don't count. Now Kentucky State has three conference losses and is playing for the conference championship !

the AD's and Presidents of the SIAC need to seriously correct this scheduling/record malfuntion.

IMHO
Title: Re: WHAT THE HECK? !! T.U.
Post by: skegeemurch74 on November 06, 2016, 12:18:21 AM
well congrats to T.U. a win is a win ,,, 8 out of 9 ball games and lost the one by one point,, quite a feat.. i really dont know what to say of this season just gonna ride it out,,

, on another note,,, two 4-6 teams for the siac championship ?? makes the whole conference look kind of cheesey to me,, but thats just my opinion .
Title: Re: WHAT THE HECK? !! T.U.
Post by: ctrabs0114 on November 06, 2016, 12:45:01 AM
i honestly believe Tuskegee's AD & coaching staff knew the risk of a regular season loss when they published this 9 game schedule with only 3 home games. There was discussion about having to go undefeated and play in the SIAC championship game to qualify for the D2 playoffs.

Second thought is the SIAC should not separate division record from conference record the champion should be determined by the conference record. Look at other major conferences, it's as if your non-division games don't count. Now Kentucky State has three conference losses and is playing for the conference championship !

the AD's and Presidents of the SIAC need to seriously correct this scheduling/record malfuntion.

IMHO

Short of the SIAC going to a round robin schedule - especially since there are 10 football teams with Paine and Stillman dropping football - what other options exist?
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Post by: tiger4life on November 06, 2016, 01:25:25 AM
With you Murch we had a good year and however it turns out it is what it is... we controlled our own destiny....But AD better be on phone trying to find a 10th game for next year or he needs to bite the bullet and swallow it too :nono2:
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Post by: Golden Kitten on November 06, 2016, 08:32:13 AM
 >:(
 :nono2:
 :brickwall:

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/rankinfile/2016/11/05/tuskegee-gets-10th-game-scheduled-ncaa-division-ii-playoffs/93348030/
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Post by: westcoastaggie on November 06, 2016, 08:44:32 AM
Playoffs?
Title: Re: WHAT THE HECK? !! T.U.
Post by: thatd@mnYOGI on November 06, 2016, 09:01:23 AM
Question. If you lose to Albany State, does this affect your chances? It's no given that you are going to beat Albany State for a second time.

that's all...   ???
Title: Re: WHAT THE HECK? !! T.U.
Post by: Ojuice TI75 on November 06, 2016, 09:10:16 AM
@ctrabs In 4 of the Power 5 conferences (with a Championship game) all games count toward your official conference record, whether you play them in your division or not. i.e. University of Alabama's conference record includes its victories against Tennessee and Kentucky which are in the East division of the SEC. Alabama is determined to be the winner of the West Division because they have the best record of all West Division teams vs. all SEC teams not just the West Division of the SEC.

In SIAC West:
Tuskegee has a 6-1 record in the Conference and a 3-1 vs West Division Teams
Ky. State has a 4-3 record in the conference and a 3-1 vs. West Division Teams

Hence Kentucky State wins the division with 3 conference losses = conference record does not count in the SIAC !

Only conference that happens is the SIAC!

I sincerely hope you understand my point?

Anybody else see my point?
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Post by: Valley Girl on November 06, 2016, 09:23:09 AM
The methodology is flawed, but my question is was there opposition to how games were counted before it was implemented?  Appears that there was none, or at the very least not enough because it has stood.  

I think a 7 game mandate would be fine - and people can play another SIAC opponent as a non conference game if the weekends line up.  


I know we haven't played TU in about 3 years or so, and that's just weird.  We always played TU, even if it didn't count as a conference game.  We need to get back to that.  
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Post by: UNA08 on November 06, 2016, 12:50:21 PM
Question. If you lose to Albany State, does this affect your chances? It's no given that you are going to beat Albany State for a second time.

that's all...   ???

If Tuskegee loses, they would end up with a 7-2 D2 record. That should be good enough to get a 5th, 6th or 7th seed in the tournament. I doubt a loss would knock them out.
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Post by: RamMan4Life on November 06, 2016, 03:44:09 PM
According to my sources, Albany State is NOT playing next week.
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Post by: tiger4life on November 06, 2016, 06:55:05 PM
I am hearing that rumble as well  :no: ... they get nothing out of playing this game well a revenue..
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Post by: ASURAMS07 on November 06, 2016, 09:40:38 PM
I was just told the football team had a meeting earlier today where it was decided that they would NOT play TU this Saturday. I'm hearing this from 2 different sources.
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Post by: tiger4life on November 06, 2016, 11:06:19 PM
I can understand ASURAM....
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Post by: Ramese98 on November 07, 2016, 08:19:38 AM
I was just told the football team had a meeting earlier today where it was decided that they would NOT play TU this Saturday. I'm hearing this from 2 different sources.

I got the same information....
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Post by: ASUALum on November 07, 2016, 09:06:07 AM
That game would have been played in Albany or Tuskegee?
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Post by: ASURAMS07 on November 07, 2016, 09:11:15 AM
That game would have been played in Albany or Tuskegee?

Albany
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Post by: Miamiinskegee on November 07, 2016, 11:58:22 AM
Statement regarding November 12th football contest

Nov. 07, 2016 Football
TUSKEGEE, Ala. | Albany State University informed Tuskegee University last night that they will not honor their agreement to play the Golden Tigers on November 12. During negotiations last week, both Albany State and Fort Valley State University agreed to host Tuskegee depending on which team lost their game on November 5.

"I am very disappointed in Albany State's decision not to honor their agreement," Tuskegee University Athletic Director Curtis Campbell said. "As members of the SIAC, we must be able to trust the word of a member institution."

Both institutions (ASU and FVSU) were aware of the importance of this game to Tuskegee, who must now secure another opponent at this very late date, while also appealing the denied waiver request by the NCAA.

Tuskegee University will release the location and time of Saturday's game as soon as all necessary arrangements have been finalized.

For more information on Tuskegee University athletics, follow us on Twitter/Snapchat/Instagram @MyTUAthletics and like on Facebook.


 
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Post by: Jaimac on November 07, 2016, 11:58:36 AM
 :shrug:


If Albany ST initially agreed then reneged, that is just wrong!   :no:  

IMO, the game would have been for the good of the conference.  Now it seems that the SIAC will not have a representative in the playoffs.  

Whether or not TU's AD did his due diligence to find another game is another matter.

 :no:  This is not good.  Too bad that TU and Benedict can not play on Saturday.

 :tongue2:
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Post by: thatd@mnYOGI on November 07, 2016, 12:02:44 PM
Lawd, HAMMERCY! In other news, the Dekalb County Alumni Chapter of Fort Valley State University is furnishing a Spirit bus to take to the championship game in Montgomery. 

that's all...    :tiptoe:
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Post by: G-Ram on November 07, 2016, 12:07:20 PM
Oh Wow! Well just blame it all on us... :shrug:
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Post by: Jaimac on November 07, 2016, 12:09:07 PM
Oh Wow! Well just blame it all on us... :shrug:

My point is that if ASU initially agreed, they should stick to their word.  

If that was not their original position, then that is another story.  The chips fell as they should have.
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Post by: G-Ram on November 07, 2016, 12:20:30 PM
Oh Wow! Well just blame it all on us... :shrug:

My point is that if ASU initially agreed, they should stick to their word.  

If that was not their original position, then that is another story.  The chips fell as they should have.

J, I was referring to the Article. In my mind the season, the hopes and the aspirations for this year's football team over with and I want my team to move on to next. I am pretty sure that is the sentiment of the majority ASU fans and the players as well. Whomever made that decision might not be the ultimate person to make that decision if it was agreed upon. Especially if it wasn't a signed contract. Playing that game is pointless as far as I'm concerned. Maybe it could help the conference. Maybe it could help with revenue. But it's kind of like a consolation, consolation, consolation game. Could hurt our Brand.
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Post by: tskge_grad on November 07, 2016, 12:30:43 PM
Statement regarding November 12th football contest

Nov. 07, 2016 Football
TUSKEGEE, Ala. | Albany State University informed Tuskegee University last night that they will not honor their agreement to play the Golden Tigers on November 12. During negotiations last week, both Albany State and Fort Valley State University agreed to host Tuskegee depending on which team lost their game on November 5.

"I am very disappointed in Albany State's decision not to honor their agreement," Tuskegee University Athletic Director Curtis Campbell said. "As members of the SIAC, we must be able to trust the word of a member institution."

Both institutions (ASU and FVSU) were aware of the importance of this game to Tuskegee, who must now secure another opponent at this very late date, while also appealing the denied waiver request by the NCAA.

Tuskegee University will release the location and time of Saturday's game as soon as all necessary arrangements have been finalized.

For more information on Tuskegee University athletics, follow us on Twitter/Snapchat/Instagram @MyTUAthletics and like on Facebook.


 

I'm not surprised at all. There is nothing in it for ASU plus IMO I think Albany thought they were going to beat FVSU.  TU looks bad, the conference looks bad and now Albany St looks bad. Whomever made the decision at Albany to play the game should have talked to the football team ahead of time.
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Post by: Ramese98 on November 07, 2016, 12:32:11 PM
I am glad we are not playing in it. I do not know the details of it. I do not know who attempted to work it out; but I am glad Albany State said NO.  It was a stupid arrangement from the beginning and never should have been discussed or brought to the table.  

I do not think there is no love lost between Albany State and the SIAC and it has been that way for awhile. Albany State has felt slighted by the SIAC for awhile now, and I would not be surprised down the line if ASU does not leave the SIAC, our current President is not with the BS and mediocrity of backwardness and unprofessionalism.
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Post by: skegeemurch74 on November 07, 2016, 12:51:57 PM
like i said when started this thread,,, our season is over,,,,,yall just go vote tomorrow!!
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Post by: Miamiinskegee on November 07, 2016, 12:58:38 PM
Skegee will play VSU Saturday at VSU.
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Post by: ‘87 Alum on November 07, 2016, 12:59:18 PM
like i said when started this thread,,, our season is over,,,,,yall just go vote tomorrow!!

 :nod:

Like Luther so infamously said.....

(http://www.recordsale.de/cdpix/l/luther_vandross-its_over_now.jpg)
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Post by: SCFAN#1 on November 07, 2016, 01:32:24 PM
Not so fast Mr. Campbell you are the one who ultimately approves the schedule of the football team ahead of the season so it's your fault you didn't schedule the requisite amount of games in the first place.  It's unsat to sit up and just blame ASU for not playing the game knowing full well they are salty they lost to FVSU for a chance to play in the title game.  Just keeping it real!

Statement regarding November 12th football contest

Nov. 07, 2016 Football
TUSKEGEE, Ala. | Albany State University informed Tuskegee University last night that they will not honor their agreement to play the Golden Tigers on November 12. During negotiations last week, both Albany State and Fort Valley State University agreed to host Tuskegee depending on which team lost their game on November 5.

"I am very disappointed in Albany State's decision not to honor their agreement," Tuskegee University Athletic Director Curtis Campbell said. "As members of the SIAC, we must be able to trust the word of a member institution."

Both institutions (ASU and FVSU) were aware of the importance of this game to Tuskegee, who must now secure another opponent at this very late date, while also appealing the denied waiver request by the NCAA.

Tuskegee University will release the location and time of Saturday's game as soon as all necessary arrangements have been finalized.

For more information on Tuskegee University athletics, follow us on Twitter/Snapchat/Instagram @MyTUAthletics and like on Facebook.


 

I'm not surprised at all. There is nothing in it for ASU plus IMO I think Albany thought they were going to beat FVSU.  TU looks bad, the conference looks bad and now Albany St looks bad. Whomever made the decision at Albany to play the game should have talked to the football team ahead of time.
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Post by: ASUALum on November 07, 2016, 01:50:47 PM
So the blame game is being played now....You.. Mr. Campbell.. phucked up... now you wanna shift the blame on ASU because ASU decided not to help you cover your a--....BOI STOP!!!! Incompetence at its best!!!!
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Post by: Golden Kitten on November 07, 2016, 01:53:23 PM
I was just told it will be Va St at Petersburg so that is so much better... :nod:
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Post by: 804ram07 on November 07, 2016, 01:55:28 PM
I was just told it will be Va St at Petersburg so that is so much better... :nod:


A quasi-Pioneer Bowl... I like it    :nod:
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Post by: Miamiinskegee on November 07, 2016, 01:57:01 PM
Here it is.
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Post by: ASURAMS07 on November 07, 2016, 01:57:23 PM
I'm not sorry that we didn't cough up $30k to play TU at home. With this being decided in the late hour there was no way to market this game and make back our $30k. It's just simple economics. Unless Tuskgee wanna cough up $30k.
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Post by: Grambling '93 on November 07, 2016, 02:28:57 PM
I was just told it will be Va St at Petersburg so that is so much better... :nod:

IMO that doesn't look like a guaranteed win. But you got the game now.
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Post by: Bison 4 Life on November 07, 2016, 02:38:52 PM
Here it is.


Is this real?
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Post by: tskge_grad on November 07, 2016, 02:39:48 PM
I was just told it will be Va St at Petersburg so that is so much better... :nod:

IMO that doesn't look like a guaranteed win. But you got the game now.

It's not a guaranteed win but I would rather see Tuskegee play a tough opponent that they have not played going into the playoffs. It helps VSU with their strength of schedule on the outside chance that they can make the playoffs though not likely(They weren't in regional rankings last week).  The AD needs to be gone no matter what.
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Post by: SkegeeFAMU on November 07, 2016, 02:41:10 PM
Folks, we can't blame AlbSU for our incompetence!! Our AD needs to be fired. Not only that, it shows the incompetence on the conference level.
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Post by: jag4life on November 07, 2016, 02:41:25 PM
I was just told it will be Va St at Petersburg so that is so much better... :nod:

IMO that doesn't look like a guaranteed win. But you got the game now.

VSU definitely won't be a guaranteed win.
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Post by: Valley Girl on November 07, 2016, 03:04:51 PM
Folks, we can't blame AlbSU for our incompetence!! Our AD needs to be fired. Not only that, it shows the incompetence on the conference level.

I  know people are saying he SHOULD be fired, but my one of my questions is WILL he be fired?

Was it not known that there were only 9 games before the season?  Did anyone inquire about it?   Did his  superiors ask if he attempted to contact anyone, who they were, and when he made the attempt?  Did they request documentation?  Just questions....

There is a saying, "the doer does what the checker checks".   It appears to me He didn't do anything about it because nobody held him accountable for it.  

I'm not really taking up for him either because it was his job to secure a waiver prior to the season and now you have ended up with this clusterf*k.   But even if you had won out, IMO it doesn't absolve him of his error - there is only outrage because they did lose.  

I guess had they won it would have been a no harm no foul situation, but I don't see it that way.

On the other hand you live and you learn I guess.   Let that man feed his family.  :lol:
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Post by: SkegeeFAMU on November 07, 2016, 03:13:27 PM
Folks, we can't blame AlbSU for our incompetence!! Our AD needs to be fired. Not only that, it shows the incompetence on the conference level.

I  know people are saying he SHOULD be fired, but my one of my questions is WILL he be fired?

Was it not known that there were only 9 games before the season?  Did anyone inquire about it?   Did his  superiors ask if he attempted to contact anyone, who they were, and when he made the attempt?  Did they request documentation?  Just questions....

There is a saying, "the doer does what the checker checks".   It appears to me He didn't do anything about it because nobody held him accountable for it.  

I'm not really taking up for him either because it was his job to secure a waiver prior to the season and now you have ended up with this clusterf*k.   But even if you had won out, IMO it doesn't absolve him of his error - there is only outrage because they did lose.  

I guess had they won it would have been a no harm no foul situation, but I don't see it that way.

On the other hand you live and you learn I guess.   Let that man feed his family.  :lol:

The problem VG is that his superiors are equally, if not more incompetent than he is.  Fooling with them, there may not even be a TU, much less trying to schedule football games.
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Post by: tusmse on November 07, 2016, 03:17:30 PM
He should be fired!!!!!

We lost one game by one point and we could be out of the playoffs.  

I LOVE Tuskegee, but we don't need to go through the back door to get anything.
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Post by: bluedog on November 07, 2016, 03:21:57 PM
Okay with this Tuskegee thing can it be any divisional school  or does it have to be a D2 school?
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Post by: vsutrojan95 on November 07, 2016, 03:26:09 PM
Okay with this Tuskegee thing can it be any divisional school  or does it have to be a D2 school?

Has to be a D2 school.
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Post by: ‘87 Alum on November 07, 2016, 03:31:22 PM
Folks, we can't blame AlbSU for our incompetence!! Our AD needs to be fired. Not only that, it shows the incompetence on the conference level.

Agreed!  Plus, too, I haven't heard anyone from Skegee blaming Albany State at all.  Everyone is furious at our internal incompetence.
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Post by: tiger4life on November 07, 2016, 03:35:18 PM
There should be no blame placed on Albany State....Va State thats a long way to travel and if we win turn around 5 days later and hit the road again... It won't be the real TU following thats for sure...Ok DC area alumni you got to come down there strong... I doubt the band will be traveling
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Post by: tusmse on November 07, 2016, 03:51:22 PM

I agree, Albany State is not to be blamed.  It is incompetence of our AD and the  conference.

I hope there will be a respectable Tuskegee crowd.  I hope the band comes.  Virginia State NEVER comes....even at home.
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Post by: bluedog on November 07, 2016, 03:52:42 PM
Okay with this Tuskegee thing can it be any divisional school  or does it have to be a D2 school?

Has to be a D2 school.

Thanks
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Post by: Ram55 on November 07, 2016, 03:56:24 PM
I was just told it will be Va St at Petersburg so that is so much better... :nod:

IMO that doesn't look like a guaranteed win. But you got the game now.

VSU definitely won't be a guaranteed win.

As much as I like TU, I will have to say that if they are needing a sure win to get to the playoffs, VSU want be that win. At best it's a toss-up, with VSU being a very narrow favorite because of home field advantage. This will basically be a playoff game for TU. You better bring your A Game or this will be a Kentucky State repeat. IMO
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Post by: 804ram07 on November 07, 2016, 04:42:04 PM
Okay with this Tuskegee thing can it be any divisional school  or does it have to be a D2 school?

Has to be a D2 school.


Actually it doesn't have to be a D2 school, although that does help. 

Tuskegee has already met the 8 D2 game requirement for the playoffs.  They need 10 games total (the game vs. FAMU counts) to be eligible which is the issue. 
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Post by: bluedog on November 07, 2016, 04:42:14 PM
All I'll  say is if the AD had pull a stunt like this at Southern his walking papers would have been on his desk right after the last game.
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Post by: skegeemurch74 on November 07, 2016, 06:18:45 PM
naw cant blame a.s.u.,,,this was a cluster from the time stillman dropped football,,( isn't our ad from stillman ??? anyway it seemed he should have known about stillman situation prior to them dropping football) you cant make a scheduled banking on wins before you play the games.
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Post by: Miamiinskegee on November 07, 2016, 06:40:50 PM
VSU is coming to Tuskegee... I know I know it sounds off. But, my ties with basically the entire defensive coaching staff and even a brief conversation with Barlow in the background confirmed this around 5.
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Post by: Miamiinskegee on November 07, 2016, 06:51:17 PM
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/rankinfile/2016/11/07/albany-state-backs-out-of-game-against-tuskegee-that-would-have-been-10th-game-for-golden-tigers/93428802/?post_id=1573955356247401_1589023548073915#_=_

Here is the article.
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Post by: klg14 on November 07, 2016, 07:03:20 PM
 :shrug: :no:
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Post by: Utopia on November 07, 2016, 07:49:22 PM
Tuskegee (8-1) vs. Virginia State (8-2), Saturday, November 12, 2016, Cleve L. Abbott Memorial Alumni Stadium, Tuskegee, AL (12:00 noon)

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiPltGI65fQAhUHMSYKHUP8AakQqQIIJCgAMAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.montgomeryadvertiser.com%2Fstory%2Fsports%2Fcollege%2Frankinfile%2F2016%2F11%2F07%2Falbany-state-backs-out-of-game-against-tuskegee-that-would-have-been-10th-game-for-golden-tigers%2F93428802%2F&usg=AFQjCNGhFA0VhtVzkUbYd6_bVGYQhcy9Aw
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Post by: Que82 on November 07, 2016, 07:55:34 PM
So I'm guessing TU is going to come deep out of their hip pocket for this. :shrug:
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Post by: tiger4life on November 07, 2016, 09:30:37 PM
Yep Que it will cost us ...what a turnaround of events this is like a soap opera  "AS THE WORLD TURNS SO DO THE DAYS OF OUR LIVES BUT WE STILL SEARCH FOR TOMORROW...LOL... the team better get focused this won't be a pushover  game
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Post by: Valley Girl on November 07, 2016, 09:45:59 PM
I just asked the question QUE asked on the other thread.   Guess Should have looked here first.  :nod:
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Post by: thatd@mnYOGI on November 08, 2016, 08:27:12 AM
I rather you not play the game and let the playoffs pass you by until next season than to waste money on game that you may lose. I don't think it's that serious to have a team in the SIAC to make the playoffs this way. You learn from this mistake and do better scheduling in the future.

that's all...    ???
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Post by: Golden Kitten on November 08, 2016, 08:52:04 AM
 :shrug:
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Post by: tusk91 on November 08, 2016, 10:11:49 AM
Behind the scenes at Virginia state universities foot team.

http://www.hbcugameday.com/2016/10/virginia-state-drops-blueprint-for-in-house-sports-media-production-ciaa.html?m=1

Should be a good game, Let's go Tuskegee!
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Post by: klg14 on November 08, 2016, 11:21:00 AM
Albany State Football Throws Shade, But Tuskegee-Virginia State is About to Be Lit

A big time regular-season black college football finale with playoff implications? Yes, please.
https://hbcudigest.com/albany-state-football-throws-shade-but-tuskegee-virginia-state-is-about-to-be-lit-df8abd2b9b7c#.n4j93ieyj
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Post by: Fly Young Intellectual on November 09, 2016, 05:58:45 PM
Oh Wow! Well just blame it all on us... :shrug:

My point is that if ASU initially agreed, they should stick to their word.  

If that was not their original position, then that is another story.  The chips fell as they should have.

J, I was referring to the Article. In my mind the season, the hopes and the aspirations for this year's football team over with and I want my team to move on to next. I am pretty sure that is the sentiment of the majority ASU fans and the players as well. Whomever made that decision might not be the ultimate person to make that decision if it was agreed upon. Especially if it wasn't a signed contract. Playing that game is pointless as far as I'm concerned. Maybe it could help the conference. Maybe it could help with revenue. But it's kind of like a consolation, consolation, consolation game. Could hurt our Brand.

And backing out of a game that you agreed to, and nobody denies they agreed to it, doesn't hurt your brand...."

Ooooookkkk
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Post by: Wildcat1025 on November 10, 2016, 07:14:50 PM
If Albany State or Fort Valley St or whoever gave their word to play the game and backed out, then that's piss poor on ASU or FVSU or whoever else. Don't agree, verbal or signed (because both are agreements) and allow a school to prep for it and back out. If I were an athletic director it would be a while before I schedule them again outside of a conference game.
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Post by: Wildcat1025 on November 10, 2016, 07:15:33 PM
I rather you not play the game and let the playoffs pass you by until next season than to waste money on game that you may lose. I don't think it's that serious to have a team in the SIAC to make the playoffs this way. You learn from this mistake and do better scheduling in the future.

that's all...    ???

But there is a solution in place  :shrug:
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Post by: G-Ram on November 10, 2016, 08:37:24 PM
If Albany State or Fort Valley St or whoever gave their word to play the game and backed out, then that's piss poor on ASU or FVSU or whoever else. Don't agree, verbal or signed (because both are agreements) and allow a school to prep for it and back out. If I were an athletic director it would be a while before I schedule them again outside of a conference game.

OK, Let's get to the real problem. Please tell us what's really bothering you Wildcat1025. You seem to have some underlining concerns about Albany State. I mean I know For Your Information is prejudice against the G-Rams. But you seem to have deeper issues besides this game. You see it's simple to me. Fort Valley Beat our a-- and we don't feel like playing anybody else. SO we gon sit home and whine for a whole dam year.
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Post by: skegeemurch74 on November 10, 2016, 09:03:33 PM
man,,what is the big deal??? so what if albany state agreed to play and then backed out after they loss,,,i feel that this cluster would not have happened if our scheduled had been completed properly in the off season,,,i am just wondering how many schools have scheduled another football game in season?? just saying,,hey,,!! we lucked out and got our 10th game, and on paper,it should be a good one,,, just play the game and let the chips fall where they may,, get over  it,,  everything is gonna be all right,, just chill please,,we got enough going on as it is.
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Post by: tiger4life on November 10, 2016, 11:49:44 PM
 :bow: :bow: He said it all Play Ball Saturday
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Post by: ToUgh1881 on November 11, 2016, 12:26:53 AM
:bow: :bow: He said it all Play Ball Saturday

12:00 noon cst   @ Abbott Stadium  "Alumni Bowl"     ;D
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Post by: tiger4life on November 11, 2016, 12:29:45 AM
We will be there   :clap: :clap: :clap: LETS GO SKEGEE
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Post by: Golden Kitten on November 11, 2016, 02:48:21 AM
murch,

I think you started this thread...
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Post by: ctrabs0114 on November 11, 2016, 01:06:17 PM
I actually previewed the Virginia State-Tuskegee as the prime game to watch in my Week 11 preview:

http://herosports.com/news/d2-football-week-11-tuskegee-virginia-state-must-watch-games

Also, for what it's worth, from reading the quotes from VSU's head coach, I get a vibe that if VSU had no chance at all of reaching the playoffs, I doubt they would've taken this game. But, as we've seen in the past, crazier things have happened in the last week of the season.