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Title: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Bison 4 Life on August 13, 2016, 01:00:14 PM
Since both candidates are flawed or worse, will you vote for  other candidates if they appear on your ballot?
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote green or libertarian this fall?
Post by: Wildman78 on August 13, 2016, 01:06:12 PM
No. I'm voting for Hillary Clinton.
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote green or libertarian this fall?
Post by: eagle pride on August 13, 2016, 01:11:24 PM
That would be a wasted vote.  I am with her!  If we vote green, Trump will be our next president. 
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote green or libertarian this fall?
Post by: Valley Girl on August 13, 2016, 01:31:15 PM
Nope. 

Bernie lost.  Get the hell over it.  (Yes I felt the Bern)

Hillary isn't my favorite person in the world but I have no doubt that woman is MORE than qualified to lead this country.   
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote green or libertarian this fall?
Post by: y04185 on August 13, 2016, 01:48:42 PM
That would be a wasted vote.  I am with her!  If we vote green, Trump will be our next president. 

There is no such thing as a wasted vote.

Nope. 

Bernie lost.  Get the hell over it.  (Yes I felt the Bern)

Hillary isn't my favorite person in the world but I have no doubt that woman is MORE than qualified to lead this country.   

According to the constitution she is qualified.  She'd be a horrible president.  She would drive this country into the ground. 

Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Wildman78 on August 13, 2016, 02:01:04 PM
y04185, were you offended when Bill O'Reilly said the slaves who built the Whitehouse were well fed and had decent housing.
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote green or libertarian this fall?
Post by: Strike79 on August 13, 2016, 02:02:31 PM
Nope. 

Bernie lost.  Get the hell over it.  (Yes I felt the Bern)

Hillary isn't my favorite person in the world but I have no doubt that woman is MORE than qualified to lead this country.   
:clap:..........yup. Could not agree more with what VG states here^^^^^.

I was a Bernie supporter as well. Voted for him in the Tennessee Dem primary. But Mrs. Clinton won the Dem presidential primary. And either she or an AVOWED bigot and Fascist WILL be the next POTUS. So the choice is clear. And we black folks don't have the "luxury" of even considering these FRINGE candidates. It's a COMPLETE waste of time AND vote.

End of discussion.
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote green or libertarian this fall?
Post by: y04185 on August 13, 2016, 02:08:46 PM
Nope. 

Bernie lost.  Get the hell over it.  (Yes I felt the Bern)

Hillary isn't my favorite person in the world but I have no doubt that woman is MORE than qualified to lead this country.   
:clap:..........yup. Could not agree more with what VG states here^^^^^.

I was a Bernie supporter as well. Voted for him in the Tennessee Dem primary. But Mrs. Clinton won the Dem presidential primary. And either she or an AVOWED bigot and Fascist WILL be the next POTUS. So the choice is clear. And we black folks don't have the "luxury" of even considering these FRINGE candidates. It's a COMPLETE waste of time AND vote.

End of discussion.

She cheated. 
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Wildman78 on August 13, 2016, 02:27:59 PM
y04185, were you offended when Bill O'Reilly said the slaves that built the Whitehouse were well fed and had decent housing?
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: y04185 on August 13, 2016, 02:28:39 PM
y04185, were you offended when Bill O'Reilly said the slaves that built the Whitehouse were well fed and had decent housing?

 :offtopic:
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Wildman78 on August 13, 2016, 02:32:46 PM
y04185, were you offended when Bill O'Reilly said the slaves that built the Whitehouse were well fed and had decent housing?

 :offtopic:

I know. y04185, were you offended when Bill O'Reilly said the slaves that built the Whitehouse were well fed and had decent housing?
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Bison66 on August 13, 2016, 02:56:34 PM
Mad?
What does that have to do with it?

Any Black man or woman in their right mind lives in a constant state of contained rage!!!  Injustice and indignity on the regular ensure that.

Conscious folks know that neither the Repubs nor the Dems have our interests at heart.
It's a cliche, but nonetheless true:  We are faced with a choice of the lesser of two evils.
And, YES!, that applied to Obama, too.

If the polls show HRC up more than 10% in Florida going into election day, I will vote for Green.

If it's closer than that, I will hold my nose and vote for HRC in the swing state of Florida..

I want to encourage the Greens, but not at the expense of a #ErraticTrump presidency.

O0
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: tusmse on August 13, 2016, 02:57:13 PM
NO!!!!!

I will proudly cast my vote for Clinton.
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Maroon and Gray on August 13, 2016, 04:12:32 PM
No
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Golden Kitten on August 13, 2016, 05:21:12 PM
 :no:
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: y04185 on August 13, 2016, 05:35:22 PM
:no:

GK, there are options other than democrat and Republican.  What is important is that you vote.  Even if you have write a name in. 

You don't have to be mad to vote for someone that is not a democrat or Republican.  You just have to vote.  Period.
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Nomenclature on August 13, 2016, 05:36:26 PM
I'm not voting for any presidential candidate. None of them have black folks best interest at heart.
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Cholly on August 13, 2016, 05:54:15 PM
I'm not voting for any presidential candidate. None of them have black folks best interest at heart.

You do realize that by NOT voting, you increase the likelihood that someone who is interested in doing  harm might win... right?

I mean... this ISN'T rocket science.  :nono2:

As others have pointed out, we as a people don't have the luxury of "The protest vote" or the "vote on principles" because MOST of the time ONE of the parties has policies that DIRECTLY put us in jeopardy

Abstaining is NOT effective or smart, NOR IS IT IN OUR BEST INTEREST.  :brickwall:
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Cholly on August 13, 2016, 05:57:09 PM
Since both candidates are flawed or worse, will you vote for  other candidates if they appear on your ballot?

See Above.

BTW, I too was a Sanders supporter. Not only did I vote for him, but contributed money to his campaign and spend an evening on the phone doing calls.

I had and have SERIOUS issues with Mrs. Clinton, but NONE of that will stop me from voting for her.  :nono2:

This is not some existential exercise; this is REAL LIFE, and the stakes could NOT be higher this year.  :nono2:
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Wildman78 on August 13, 2016, 06:00:41 PM
I'm not voting for any presidential candidate. None of them have black folks best interest at heart.

So, somehow, in your mind, it is in the best interest of Black people not to vote?

Why shouldn't a Black person cast their vote for the candidate they think would be in the best interest of the United States?
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Golden Kitten on August 13, 2016, 08:01:00 PM
Don't vote, don't b&%$@.

It's funny how we expect others to care about our best interest when we seemingly don't...

y,

Only Republican I ever voted for... :nod:

http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/08/12/grand-traverse-gop-disowns-ex-gov-milliken-over-his-clinton-support/88641468/
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Nomenclature on August 13, 2016, 09:24:58 PM
I'm not voting for any presidential candidate. None of them have black folks best interest at heart.

You do realize that by NOT voting, you increase the likelihood that someone who is interested in doing  harm might win... right?



Since both are going to do harm it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Nomenclature on August 13, 2016, 09:26:25 PM
I'm not voting for any presidential candidate. None of them have black folks best interest at heart.

So, somehow, in your mind, it is in the best interest of Black people not to vote?


Not for POTUS.

Local elections are more important.
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: y04185 on August 13, 2016, 09:28:51 PM
I'm not voting for any presidential candidate. None of them have black folks best interest at heart.

So, somehow, in your mind, it is in the best interest of Black people not to vote?


Not for POTUS.

Local elections are more important.

You are correct about local elections.  I invite you in joining me and vote for Vivica A. Fox.
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Nomenclature on August 13, 2016, 09:33:07 PM
I'm not voting for any presidential candidate. None of them have black folks best interest at heart.

So, somehow, in your mind, it is in the best interest of Black people not to vote?


Not for POTUS.

Local elections are more important.

You are correct about local elections.  I invite you in joining me and vote for Vivica A. Fox.

I invite you to get the hell out of my circumference.
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: JBROB on August 13, 2016, 09:34:03 PM
The African-American electorate should remind Sec. Hillary Clinton that she is the nominee because we choose her.  If we have to wait in line ... it is time to bounce.
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Cholly on August 13, 2016, 11:18:16 PM
I'm not voting for any presidential candidate. None of them have black folks best interest at heart.

You do realize that by NOT voting, you increase the likelihood that someone who is interested in doing  harm might win... right?



Since both are going to do harm it doesn't matter.

Well, we KNOW that trumpcard will do harm... but there IS no harm that Clinton can do that would be anywhere NEAR comparable.

Think about it man....
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Nomenclature on August 13, 2016, 11:31:09 PM
I'm not voting for any presidential candidate. None of them have black folks best interest at heart.

You do realize that by NOT voting, you increase the likelihood that someone who is interested in doing  harm might win... right?





Since both are going to do harm it doesn't matter.

Well, we KNOW that trumpcard will do harm... but there IS no harm that Clinton can do that would be anywhere NEAR comparable.

Think about it man....

Tell that to the people of Haiti and Lybia.
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Decks on August 14, 2016, 02:18:55 AM
This election is supposed to be about picking "the lesser of evils." Not exactly the way you want to go about selecting POTUS?   :no:

As of right now I don't favor any of the choices and will probably go with a write in. If the race is close in my state come November I might consider voting for Clinton.
 
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: y04185 on August 14, 2016, 02:24:36 AM
The African-American electorate should remind Sec. Hillary Clinton that she is the nominee because we choose her.  If we have to wait in line ... it is time to bounce.

You people have been waiting in line since 2008 and you haven't bounced. 
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Wildman78 on August 14, 2016, 03:48:22 AM
Y04185, were you offended when Bill O'Reilly said the slaves that built the Whitehouse were well fed and had decent housing?
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Cholly on August 14, 2016, 04:29:14 AM
This election is supposed to be about picking "the lesser of evils." Not exactly the way you want to go about selecting POTUS?   :no:

As of right now I don't favor any of the choices and will probably go with a write in. If the race is close in my state come November I might consider voting for Clinton.
 

 :clap:

Considering the fact that the next President MAY get to select up to 3 justices for the Supreme Court, that's a good thing.  :nod:

But Devin... Libya? Really?

You blame her for Libya? Even though it was the President that made the call and NATO that carried it out?

And you would equate that to trumpcard who advocates killing relatives of terrorists and bringing back torture? Who wants to arm Japan with nukes and isn't against using the same anywhere, anytime?

Really?  :shrug:
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: JBROB on August 14, 2016, 06:47:18 AM
The African-American electorate should remind Sec. Hillary Clinton that she is the nominee because we choose her.  If we have to wait in line ... it is time to bounce.

You people have been waiting in line since 2008 and you haven't bounced. 

We are being pimped. But I think we are more aware of it now. How that changes our politics ... ??? I think we saw a generational split in the primary
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: y04185 on August 14, 2016, 09:09:04 AM
The African-American electorate should remind Sec. Hillary Clinton that she is the nominee because we choose her.  If we have to wait in line ... it is time to bounce.

You people have been waiting in line since 2008 and you haven't bounced. 

We are being pimped. But I think we are more aware of it now. How that changes our politics ... ??? I think we saw a generational split in the primary

It's time for Blacks to cut the pimp (democrat party) loose.  The Stockholm Syndrome is real when it comes to Blacks and politics.
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: DAW912 on August 14, 2016, 09:41:55 AM
I'm voting for Gary Johnson because I agree with the majority of his positions.  Plus, the Democratic and Republican Parties nominated unacceptable standard-bearers. It's a no-brainer for me.
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: soflorattler on August 14, 2016, 09:45:36 AM
I'm not voting for any presidential candidate. None of them have black folks best interest at heart.

You do realize that by NOT voting, you increase the likelihood that someone who is interested in doing  harm might win... right?



Since both are going to do harm it doesn't matter.

Since you know this, what are the lottery numbers for Wednesday?
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Golden Kitten on August 14, 2016, 09:48:52 AM
Whew... :no: :no: :no:
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: soflorattler on August 14, 2016, 09:50:21 AM
I'm not voting for any presidential candidate. None of them have black folks best interest at heart.

You do realize that by NOT voting, you increase the likelihood that someone who is interested in doing  harm might win... right?





Since both are going to do harm it doesn't matter.

Well, we KNOW that trumpcard will do harm... but there IS no harm that Clinton can do that would be anywhere NEAR comparable.

Think about it man....

Tell that to the people of Haiti and Lybia.

So, you want to absolve the French (Haiti) and the GOP led congress (rejected security funding)?
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: y04185 on August 14, 2016, 09:51:10 AM
I'm voting for Gary Johnson because I agree with the majority of his positions.  Plus, the Democratic and Republican Parties nominated unacceptable standard-bearers. It's a no-brainer for me.

 :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Golden Kitten on August 14, 2016, 11:19:23 AM
Wasn't the GOP-led Congress rejected security funding partially responsible for Benghazi?  :shrug:
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: CU1994 on August 14, 2016, 12:37:27 PM
Whew... :no: :no: :no:

This
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Cholly on August 14, 2016, 03:54:59 PM
Whew... :no: :no: :no:

^^^I know.

But the good thing is, these people are outliers and insufficient in number to affect or effect the outcome of the election much less dilute our voting power as a bloc.

Still, it's a shame to see their votes go to waste... even if our Constitution expressly allows such unwise and non-pragmatic polity.  :no:
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Cholly on August 14, 2016, 03:57:13 PM
I'm voting for Gary Johnson because I agree with the majority of his positions.  Plus, the Democratic and Republican Parties nominated unacceptable standard-bearers. It's a no-brainer for me.

 :clap: :clap: :clap:

DAW, an endorsement from ^^^THIS ARSEWHOLE^^^ should be more than enough to give you pause to question your decision....  :tiptoe:
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Cholly on August 14, 2016, 04:01:07 PM
Wasn't the GOP-led Congress rejected security funding partially responsible for Benghazi?  :shrug:

Partially? I'd say MOSTLY.

Plus the Ambassadors bone-headed decision to REJECT the recommendations of his own security detail and GO there in the FIRST place.

As for the rise of ISIL, well, AGAIN; the gop congress has FAILED TO ACT, leaving the President to deal with a bad situation WITHOUT full funding or congressional authority.  :shrug:

So blaming Hillary is something people who don't FULLY understand the situation or how it came to be this way do in ignorance.  :nod:
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Que82 on August 14, 2016, 04:24:32 PM
:no:

GK, there are options other than democrat and Republican.  What is important is that you vote.  Even if you have write a name in. 

You don't have to be mad to vote for someone that is not a democrat or Republican.  You just have to vote.  Period.
Y says this BS because he basically know that a vote for the Green party is basically a vote for Trump.  I will hold my nose and vote Clinton.
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Bison66 on August 14, 2016, 05:57:10 PM
The African-American electorate should remind Sec. Hillary Clinton that she is the nominee because we choose her.  If we have to wait in line ... it is time to bounce.

You people have been waiting in line since 2008 and you haven't bounced. 

We are being pimped. But I think we are more aware of it now. How that changes our politics ... ??? I think we saw a generational split in the primary

It's time for Blacks to cut the pimp (democrat party) loose.  The Stockholm Syndrome is real when it comes to Blacks and politics.

Do YOU have a suggestion for a party that Blacks should support?
(EVEN THOUGH YOU "COULD CARE LESS" how your vote affects Blacks  ::)  )

O0
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: j1908 on August 14, 2016, 07:54:01 PM
Nope#I'm with Her
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: y04185 on August 14, 2016, 08:01:30 PM
The African-American electorate should remind Sec. Hillary Clinton that she is the nominee because we choose her.  If we have to wait in line ... it is time to bounce.

You people have been waiting in line since 2008 and you haven't bounced. 

We are being pimped. But I think we are more aware of it now. How that changes our politics ... ??? I think we saw a generational split in the primary

It's time for Blacks to cut the pimp (democrat party) loose.  The Stockholm Syndrome is real when it comes to Blacks and politics.

Do YOU have a suggestion for a party that Blacks should support?
(EVEN THOUGH YOU "COULD CARE LESS" how your vote affects Blacks  ::)  )

O0

No party.  Vote for the individual.  Regardless of party.  democrats are taking your votes for granted.  When a politician does that it's time to vote for the other candidate.  That's why they should be challenged in the primaries.
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Valley Girl on August 14, 2016, 08:13:46 PM
Whew... :no: :no: :no:

Tell me about it :no:  #MyHeadHurts
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Decks on August 14, 2016, 09:12:37 PM
This election is supposed to be about picking "the lesser of evils." Not exactly the way you want to go about selecting POTUS?   :no:

As of right now I don't favor any of the choices and will probably go with a write in. If the race is close in my state come November I might consider voting for Clinton.
 

 :clap:

Considering the fact that the next President MAY get to select up to 3 justices for the Supreme Court, that's a good thing.  :nod:

But Libya? Really?

You blame her for Libya? Even though it was the President that made the call and NATO that carried it out?

And you would equate that to trumpcard who advocates killing relatives of terrorists and bringing back torture? Who wants to arm Japan with nukes and isn't against using the same anywhere, anytime?

Really?  :shrug:


Perhaps you intended the latter half of your statement for Devin?     
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Bison66 on August 14, 2016, 09:18:42 PM
The African-American electorate should remind Sec. Hillary Clinton that she is the nominee because we choose her.  If we have to wait in line ... it is time to bounce.

You people have been waiting in line since 2008 and you haven't bounced.  

We are being pimped. But I think we are more aware of it now. How that changes our politics ... ??? I think we saw a generational split in the primary

It's time for Blacks to cut the pimp (democrat party) loose.  The Stockholm Syndrome is real when it comes to Blacks and politics.

Do YOU have a suggestion for a party that Blacks should support?
(EVEN THOUGH YOU "COULD CARE LESS" how your vote affects Blacks  ::)  )

O0

No party.  Vote for the individual.  Regardless of party.  democrats are taking your votes for granted.  When a politician does that it's time to vote for the other candidate.  That's why they should be challenged in the primaries.

y04,

In many states, you MUST be registered with a Party to vote in a primary, so one would have to choose a Party to vote for a challenger in the primaries.
That fact seems to undercut your approach for many, if not most.

Regarding being taken for granted (with which I do not agree):
And Repubs are doing NOTHING to earn "your votes" and in several states are attempting to suppress the Black vote.  So that's MORE - MUCH MORE - than a wash IMO.

Moving on...
We disagree on this as we have before.
I've explained MULTIPLE TIMES why - particularly in the hyper-partisan environment of today.
You have YET to explain how putting another person of a party in office helps when it is their party that seems hell bent on restricting Black voters access to the ballot, repealing ObamaCare (for those who support it) and are increasingly popular with Nazis, white so-called supremacists, KKK, etc.  You can respond to that...if you wish and if you can.

But,....
Let me ask you - on the off chance that you are being serious and will actually answer a straight question with a straight answer:

Your history on THIS Board does not seem to track consistently with the advice you are offering here. You defend Repubs and with rare exceptions condemn Dems. Why is that?

And:

Are YOU registered in a Party so that YOU can vote in primaries?

In other words, HAVE YOU CUT THE REPUB PARTY LOOSE like you are suggesting to us to do?


Thanks.

O0
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Cholly on August 14, 2016, 10:57:00 PM
This election is supposed to be about picking "the lesser of evils." Not exactly the way you want to go about selecting POTUS?   :no:

As of right now I don't favor any of the choices and will probably go with a write in. If the race is close in my state come November I might consider voting for Clinton.
 

 :clap:

Considering the fact that the next President MAY get to select up to 3 justices for the Supreme Court, that's a good thing.  :nod:

But Libya? Really?

You blame her for Libya? Even though it was the President that made the call and NATO that carried it out?

And you would equate that to trumpcard who advocates killing relatives of terrorists and bringing back torture? Who wants to arm Japan with nukes and isn't against using the same anywhere, anytime?

Really?  :shrug:


Perhaps you intended the latter half of your statement for Devin?     

I did... but forgot to put his name in. It shall be edited.

Apologies....
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: y04185 on August 15, 2016, 09:34:53 AM
B66,  even  if  you  remain  a democrat ,  you  can  vote  for  the  other  person  in  the  primary .   That’s  what  the  GOP  did  to elect  Dave  Brat over  Eric  Cantor .  For  Blacks ,  if the  no  good  democrat  is  unopposed  in  the  primary  then  you  vote  for  the  other  candidate  in  the  general  election . 

It's  also  time  for  some  of  you  democrats  and  liberals  to  run  for  public  office .   
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: DAW912 on August 15, 2016, 09:42:05 AM
I'm voting for Gary Johnson because I agree with the majority of his positions.  Plus, the Democratic and Republican Parties nominated unacceptable standard-bearers. It's a no-brainer for me.

 :clap: :clap: :clap:

DAW, an endorsement from ^^^THIS ARSEWHOLE^^^ should be more than enough to give you pause to question your decision....  :tiptoe:
No, it's full steam ahead.  Johnson/Weld 2016
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: y04185 on August 15, 2016, 09:45:54 AM
I'm voting for Gary Johnson because I agree with the majority of his positions.  Plus, the Democratic and Republican Parties nominated unacceptable standard-bearers. It's a no-brainer for me.

 :clap: :clap: :clap:

DAW, an endorsement from ^^^THIS ARSEWHOLE^^^ should be more than enough to give you pause to question your decision....  :tiptoe:
No, it's full steam ahead.  Johnson/Weld 2016

 :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: WileECoyote06 on August 15, 2016, 09:59:27 AM
I can vote my conscience in local and state elections. 

As for president, there is no way in hell I can with good conscience, hand Trump the election and the power to appoint Supreme Court and federal judges, by refusing to vote for Clinton.  I don't think the presidency has a huge effect on me personally, but it's simply not worth the risk. 

The people of America spoke during the primaries.  They didn't leave me much of a choice.  :lol:
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Cholly on August 15, 2016, 10:08:39 AM
Man... that's the thing.

The President DOES have power over YOUR life.

A president sent my two sons and nephew into situations where they COULD have lost their lives. Why? Because he wanted oil and revenge against saddam "who tried to kill my daddy."

That man's tax policies exploded the debt and deficit. His economic policies threw this country and the world into the SECOND worst economic disaster in modern history. His trade policies have completely restructured the American economy. He is PERSONALLY responsible for expanding and extending the gap between the rich and the rest of us and accelerating the decline of the Middle Class.

Plus, he signs the bills a right-wing congress present him, and those laws ALSO have a direct effect and affect on your (and my) life.

Top to bottom, local to national, how our leaders lead influences our lives on a DAILY basis.

We ALL should realize that.  :nod:
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: y04185 on August 15, 2016, 02:29:11 PM
The Supreme Court Justices appointed by Trump won't be very conservative.  They will be moderates.  They will also be less predictable.  Also, Trump would appoint at least one non judge to the United States Supreme Court.
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Bison66 on August 15, 2016, 02:49:03 PM
B66,  even  if  you  remain  a democrat ,  you  can  vote  for  the  other  person  in  the  primary .   That’s  what  the  GOP  did  to elect  Dave  Brat over  Eric  Cantor .  For  Blacks ,  if the  no  good  democrat  is  unopposed  in  the  primary  then  you  vote  for  the  other  candidate  in  the  general  election . 

It's  also  time  for  some  of  you  democrats  and  liberals  to  run  for  public  office .   

Reading comprehension has never been one of your strong points.

But I will refrain from re-stating the FACTS that you have ignored in your response.

So,......have you left the Repub party like you are suggesting Dems do?

If not, you are being hypocritical.

O0
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Cholly on August 15, 2016, 03:05:02 PM
66, you can't spell the word hypocritical... without Y.  ;)
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: y04185 on August 15, 2016, 03:55:42 PM
B66,  even  if  you  remain  a democrat ,  you  can  vote  for  the  other  person  in  the  primary .   That’s  what  the  GOP  did  to elect  Dave  Brat over  Eric  Cantor .  For  Blacks ,  if the  no  good  democrat  is  unopposed  in  the  primary  then  you  vote  for  the  other  candidate  in  the  general  election . 

It's  also  time  for  some  of  you  democrats  and  liberals  to  run  for  public  office .   

Reading comprehension has never been one of your strong points.

But I will refrain from re-stating the FACTS that you have ignored in your response.

So,......have you left the Repub party like you are suggesting Dems do?

If not, you are being hypocritical.

O0

I  left  the  democrat  party because  of  their  racist  ways . 

Even  if  you  stay  a democrat, you  definitely  don't  have  to  always  vote for  the  same  ones . 

If your senator ,  representative ,  etc. haven't  written  any legislation  in the  past  5 years  that  got passed  it's  time  to  vote  for  the  other  candidate .   

Also ,  money  talks. You  should  donate  to  both  sides .  A relative  of  mine  donated  to  both  sides .  The  GOP  candidate  won.  An  issue  came  up  that  Blacks  were  vocal  about .   He  gets  a  call  from  the  GOP  guy's  office  on  that  issue .  He  explained  why  the  issue  was  important  to  Blacks  and  good  for  his  district .  The  GOP  guy  broke  ranks  and  voted  the  way  my  relative  said  he  should .   For  a year  he  kept  telling  me  how  he  LBJd  that  guy . 
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: CIAA-FAN on August 15, 2016, 03:58:48 PM
The African-American electorate should remind Sec. Hillary Clinton that she is the nominee because we choose her.  If we have to wait in line ... it is time to bounce.

You people have been waiting in line since 2008 and you haven't bounced. 

We are being pimped. But I think we are more aware of it now. How that changes our politics ... ??? I think we saw a generational split in the primary

It's time for Blacks to cut the pimp (democrat party) loose.  The Stockholm Syndrome is real when it comes to Blacks and politics.

Do YOU have a suggestion for a party that Blacks should support?
(EVEN THOUGH YOU "COULD CARE LESS" how your vote affects Blacks  ::)  )

O0

No party.  Vote for the individual.  Regardless of party.  democrats are taking your votes for granted.  When a politician does that it's time to vote for the other candidate.  That's why they should be challenged in the primaries.

WELL THE PRIMARIES ARE LONG OVER.  OF THE 4 MAJOR CANDIDATES I AM VOTING FOR HRC.   WHICH INDIVIDUAL ARE YOU VOTING FOR?
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: y04185 on August 15, 2016, 04:01:38 PM
The African-American electorate should remind Sec. Hillary Clinton that she is the nominee because we choose her.  If we have to wait in line ... it is time to bounce.

You people have been waiting in line since 2008 and you haven't bounced. 

We are being pimped. But I think we are more aware of it now. How that changes our politics ... ??? I think we saw a generational split in the primary

It's time for Blacks to cut the pimp (democrat party) loose.  The Stockholm Syndrome is real when it comes to Blacks and politics.

Do YOU have a suggestion for a party that Blacks should support?
(EVEN THOUGH YOU "COULD CARE LESS" how your vote affects Blacks  ::)  )

O0

No party.  Vote for the individual.  Regardless of party.  democrats are taking your votes for granted.  When a politician does that it's time to vote for the other candidate.  That's why they should be challenged in the primaries.

WELL THE PRIMARIES ARE LONG OVER.  OF THE 4 MAJOR CANDIDATES I AM VOTING FOR HRC.   WHICH INDIVIDUAL ARE YOU VOTING FOR?

I  already  answered  that  question .   
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: CIAA-FAN on August 15, 2016, 04:08:17 PM
The African-American electorate should remind Sec. Hillary Clinton that she is the nominee because we choose her.  If we have to wait in line ... it is time to bounce.

You people have been waiting in line since 2008 and you haven't bounced. 

We are being pimped. But I think we are more aware of it now. How that changes our politics ... ??? I think we saw a generational split in the primary

It's time for Blacks to cut the pimp (democrat party) loose.  The Stockholm Syndrome is real when it comes to Blacks and politics.

Do YOU have a suggestion for a party that Blacks should support?
(EVEN THOUGH YOU "COULD CARE LESS" how your vote affects Blacks  ::)  )

O0

No party.  Vote for the individual.  Regardless of party.  democrats are taking your votes for granted.  When a politician does that it's time to vote for the other candidate.  That's why they should be challenged in the primaries.

WELL THE PRIMARIES ARE LONG OVER.  OF THE 4 MAJOR CANDIDATES I AM VOTING FOR HRC.   WHICH INDIVIDUAL ARE YOU VOTING FOR?

I  already  answered  that  question .   

I LOOKED AND COULDN'T FIND IT.  PLEASE REPEAT YOUR ANSWER.
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: y04185 on August 15, 2016, 04:10:11 PM
The African-American electorate should remind Sec. Hillary Clinton that she is the nominee because we choose her.  If we have to wait in line ... it is time to bounce.

You people have been waiting in line since 2008 and you haven't bounced. 

We are being pimped. But I think we are more aware of it now. How that changes our politics ... ??? I think we saw a generational split in the primary

It's time for Blacks to cut the pimp (democrat party) loose.  The Stockholm Syndrome is real when it comes to Blacks and politics.

Do YOU have a suggestion for a party that Blacks should support?
(EVEN THOUGH YOU "COULD CARE LESS" how your vote affects Blacks  ::)  )

O0

No party.  Vote for the individual.  Regardless of party.  democrats are taking your votes for granted.  When a politician does that it's time to vote for the other candidate.  That's why they should be challenged in the primaries.

WELL THE PRIMARIES ARE LONG OVER.  OF THE 4 MAJOR CANDIDATES I AM VOTING FOR HRC.   WHICH INDIVIDUAL ARE YOU VOTING FOR?

I  already  answered  that  question .   

I LOOKED AND COULDN'T FIND IT.  PLEASE REPEAT YOUR ANSWER.

No! 

You  can  find  anything  else .  Find  the  answer .   
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Wildman78 on August 15, 2016, 04:16:18 PM
He says he's voting for Vivica Fox.  ::)
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: Bison66 on August 15, 2016, 07:55:48 PM
The Supreme Court Justices appointed by Trump won't be very conservative.  They will be moderates.  They will also be less predictable.  Also, Trump would appoint at least one non judge to the United States Supreme Court.

You have NO idea whether he will appoint non-judges.

But, we agree on an item that I've highlighted to Olds..t:  He's known as #ErraticTrump for a reason.  He's erratic!  He has no "core values."  He only cares about himself as reflected in his life and his comments.

He's NOT a Conservative, so there's no telling what he will do.  This is why NO TRUE Conservative should be supporting #ErraticTrump.  He's a loose cannon!

O0
Title: Re: Onnidan are you mad enough to vote Green or Libertarian this fall?
Post by: CIAA-FAN on August 15, 2016, 08:07:11 PM
The African-American electorate should remind Sec. Hillary Clinton that she is the nominee because we choose her.  If we have to wait in line ... it is time to bounce.

You people have been waiting in line since 2008 and you haven't bounced. 

We are being pimped. But I think we are more aware of it now. How that changes our politics ... ??? I think we saw a generational split in the primary

It's time for Blacks to cut the pimp (democrat party) loose.  The Stockholm Syndrome is real when it comes to Blacks and politics.

Do YOU have a suggestion for a party that Blacks should support?
(EVEN THOUGH YOU "COULD CARE LESS" how your vote affects Blacks  ::)  )

O0

No party.  Vote for the individual.  Regardless of party.  democrats are taking your votes for granted.  When a politician does that it's time to vote for the other candidate.  That's why they should be challenged in the primaries.

WELL THE PRIMARIES ARE LONG OVER.  OF THE 4 MAJOR CANDIDATES I AM VOTING FOR HRC.   WHICH INDIVIDUAL ARE YOU VOTING FOR?

I  already  answered  that  question .   

I LOOKED AND COULDN'T FIND IT.  PLEASE REPEAT YOUR ANSWER.

No! 

You  can  find  anything  else .  Find  the  answer .   

I FAIL TO UNDERSTAND YOUR REASONING FOR WANTING TO PUBLICALLY STATE WHO YOU SUPPORT?  THAT IS NOT AN UNREASONABLE REQUEST ON A POLITICAL FORUM, TO STATE EMPHATICALLY WHERE ONE STANDS.   ANY OTHER TIME YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM INSULTING PEOPLE BY CALLING THEM "YOU PEOPLE" OR POSTING PROVOCATIVE POSTS WITHOUT YOUR OPINION?  I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTION ABOUT WHO I SUPPORT AND WHY.  HELL, EVEN OLD SPORT IS NOT AFRAID TO PROUDLY SUPPORT HIS BELIEFS.  PERHAPS, YOU ARE NOT SO PROUD OF WHO YOU SUPPORT.  BUT I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER 10TH FOR YOUR RESPONSE.