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« on: February 04, 2012, 02:59:49 PM »

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Republicans justify voter ID requirements - which disenfranchise literally millions of young, poor and quite elderly voters without a drivers license - on the basis of ensuring election results do not get manipulated by voter fraud. So it is ironic beyond the pale that the hard right Republican Secretary of State of Indiana was just convicted of 6 felony counts of voter fraud personally - and he had a license!

Ind. election chief found guilty of voter fraud

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INDIANAPOLIS - Indiana's top elections official could lose his job and his freedom after jurors convicted him of multiple voter fraud-related charges on Saturday, leaving in flux the fate of one of the state's most powerful positions.

Republican Secretary of State Charlie White has held on to his office for more than a year despite being accused of lying about his address on voter registration forms.

A Hamilton County jury found White guilty of six of seven felony charges, including false registration, voting in another precinct, submitting a false ballot, theft and two counts of perjury. He was acquitted on one fraud charge.

White expressed no outward emotion as the verdict was read, and later said outside the courtroom: "'I'm disappointed for my family and the people who supported me."

White and his attorneys said the fate of his elected post remains unknown and ultimately may have to be decided by the governor or state supreme court. "We will review our options," he said."

White's attorney, Carl Brizzi, said he will ask the judge to reduce the charges to misdemeanors because his client has no criminal background and has a long record of public service.

The jury verdict came after a weeklong trial in which White, who had vigorously protested the charges in hearings before a state elections panel, presented no defense.

Prosecutors said he used his ex-wife's address instead of a condo he had with his fiancDee because he didn't want to give up his $1,000-per-month Fishers Town Council salary after moving out of that district. He faced seven felony charges, including voter fraud, perjury and theft.

White, 42, has said the charges ignored a complicated personal life in which he was trying to raise his 10-year-old son, plan his second marriage and campaign for the statewide office he won that November. He said he stayed at his ex-wife's house when he wasn't on the road campaigning and did not live in the condo until after he remarried.

No sentencing date was set.

Republican special prosecutor John Dowd said he's also unsure about the fate of White's position, but expressed satisfaction about the verdict.

"We believe it was about someone who violated the law and cheated the system - and gamed the system," Dowd said. "And, obviously, the jury thought the same way."

State law bars anyone convicted of a felony from remaining in office. It wasn't immediately clear how quickly White could be replaced or who might succeed him.

A Marion County judge already has ruled that White should be replaced by Democrat Vop Osili, the man he defeated by about 300,000 votes in the November 2010 election, but that ruling is on hold pending an appeal.

But state law allows the governor - in the case, Republican Gov. Mitch Daniels - to appoint a successor.

White has resisted calls to resign from Democrats and Republicans, including Daniels.

Attorney Karen Celestino-Horseman, who watched the trial and spoke on behalf of Indiana Democrats following the verdict, said the party believes White's conviction further affirms that Osili should be secretary of state.

"(White) has been convicted, but the judge has left it open for misdemeanor sentencing. That's something that's going to have to be examined," she said.

During his closing arguments, special prosecutor Dan Sigler Jr. argued that White knew that he was committing voter fraud but did it anyway for political power.

"If we aren't going to enforce election law against the secretary of state of Indiana, who are we going to enforce it against?" Sigler said.

Brizzi, rested Thursday without presenting a defense.

Brizzi told the jury during his closing arguments Friday that White's name was on the condo's bills and documents because he was paying for his fiancee and her children to live there, not because he was himself living at that address.

"Their case is based entirely on assumption, innuendo and leaps," Brizzi said.

White maintains he was staying at his ex-wife's house when he wasn't on the road campaigning and did not live in the condo until after his remarriage.
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2012, 04:48:26 PM »

He should have shown his ID.
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2012, 05:03:37 PM »

Cholly is wrong again.

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There is no such thing as VOTER fraud.  nono2

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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2012, 12:04:15 AM »

He should have shown his ID.

Do you have some basis on which to believe that he did not?
Or....
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2012, 07:23:56 AM »

He should have shown his ID.

Do you have some basis on which to believe that he did not?
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He's going to prison.  Also, he would have been found guilty for not updating his driver's license and vehicle registration.   He might have avoided all this had he voted absentee.

BTW, the prosecutor is a Republican.  Unlike democrats, we clean up our own.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2012, 11:13:06 AM »

He should have shown his ID.

Do you have some basis on which to believe that he did not?
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He's going to prison.  Also, he would have been found guilty for not updating his driver's license and vehicle registration.   He might have avoided all this had he voted absentee.

BTW, the prosecutor is a Republican.  Unlike democrats, we clean up our own.

Either you don't comprehend or you have no answer to a simple question:
Do you have some basis on which to believe that he did not (show ID)?

Do you?

I only ask because I did not see anything in the article about ID.  Perhaps I missed it and you could point it out.  Or, perhaps you dug deeper and found something elsewhere.  If so, I would appreciate your sharing it.
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2012, 10:21:22 PM »

As usual...an empty barrel.
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2012, 06:32:11 AM »

You people are saying voter ID laws suppress the vote.  You people claim having to show ID suppresses the vote.  The Cholly says there is no such thing as voter fraud.  He needs to explain how this guy in Indiana got convicted for something that does not exist.

Had he shown his ID it would have shown whether he was at the correct poll.  If his ID did not show his current address he would have violated another law.  Failure to update his ID or driver's license.  Most of the time when I vote I am not asked for any ID.  I just state my name.  Sometimes they will ask me for my address.  It is rare for anyone to ask me for ID.
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2012, 08:39:07 AM »

He should have shown his ID.

Do you have some basis on which to believe that he did not?
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EXACTLY!!!  lol

Why should we ASSUME that the new voter supression laws would have prevented him from voting illegally?  

Or ANYONE from voting illegally for that matter? shrug

So stopping 1-2 people from voting illegally is supposed to justify preventing hundreds of thousands of old and young folks as well as people of color from voting, ESPECIALLY since they are likely Democratic voters?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight; voter suppression, plain and simple. Roll Eyes

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What once was up will soon be down."
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Does THIS look like the face of someone who was in the fight of his life? REALLY?
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2012, 12:55:14 PM »

You people are saying voter ID laws suppress the vote.  You people claim having to show ID suppresses the vote.  The Cholly says there is no such thing as voter fraud.  He needs to explain how this guy in Indiana got convicted for something that does not exist.

Had he shown his ID it would have shown whether he was at the correct poll.  If his ID did not show his current address he would have violated another law.  Failure to update his ID or driver's license.  Most of the time when I vote I am not asked for any ID.  I just state my name.  Sometimes they will ask me for my address.  It is rare for anyone to ask me for ID.

In other words, y04, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER HE PRESENTED ID OR NOT.

So, your original comment that he should have presented his ID HAS NO BASIS at all because you don't know whether he did or not.

IF he did, then obviously the ID requirement did not stop the fraud!!  HELLO!!!!

Wonder what ever happened to that investigation into whether Romney committed voter fraud by voting in Mass when he had no home there, but claimed his son's basement as his residence AND NOT his home in nearby NH, which has no income tax.
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2012, 02:03:09 PM »

Maybe Obamas boy Duval is waiting for Romney to get the nod before he brings charges in the general?

October suprise anyone? Grin
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