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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2012, 05:14:26 PM »

Reading is fundamental. Re-read the last four words of the SECOND sentence.  crazy

It won't backfire.  It won't get thrown out of court like you claim.
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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2012, 08:38:30 PM »

My 2005 Civic Hybrid got 40 mpg from the day I took the keys to the day I traded it in.

I could EASILY get 45 mpg highway driving between 65-70 and 38-42 mpg in the city.

It was VERY comfortable, even for a big man like me, and NEVER gave me ANY serious mechanical problems.

Now it was EXPENSIVE AS HELL to keep up. Scheduled maintainence ran anywhere from $132-$225 and the tune-up was almost $800!

Plus with it getting older, the batteries were reaching their lifetime limit and it would have cost over $5,000 to replace them.

I got $4800 on the trade... pretty good for a car with 162,000 miles on it and the new owner is VERY happy I hear. Wink

This woman is full of crap. Roll Eyes

Thank you! I'm totally with you on this. Honda's disclosure said the testing was done under controlled circumstances and each owners mileage may differ based on driving habits.
These frivolous lawsuits do nothing but drive up the costs of goods. Honda will pass the losses from these lawsuits on to their customers and employees.    Angry
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« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2012, 09:17:26 PM »

I know right?  Angry

But I don't think they will lose many cases...
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« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2012, 10:53:14 PM »

She better hope her lawyers are doing this pro-bono. Always thought those were ESTIMATED mpg's.  Frivolous lawsuit IMO
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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2012, 05:59:42 AM »

She better hope her lawyers are doing this pro-bono. Always thought those were ESTIMATED mpg's.  Frivolous lawsuit IMO

If you had read the article you would know that there will be no lawyers in the courtroom. 
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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2012, 09:00:23 PM »

She won her case!  clap

LOS ANGELES — A Southern California woman who challenged the legal status-quo by filing a small-claims action against Honda won her lawsuit Wednesday when a judge ruled that the automaker misled her about the potential fuel economy of her hybrid car.

Los Angeles Superior Court Commissioner Douglas Carnahan awarded Heather Peters $9,867 — much more than the couple hundred dollars cash that a proposed class-action settlement is offering.

"At a bare minimum Honda was aware ... that by the time Peters bought her car there were problems with its living up to its advertised mileage," Carnahan wrote in the judgment.

Peters, a former lawyer, said she is now renewing her legal license after a 10-year lapse so she can represent other Honda owners who have the same problems she did.

"Wow! Fantastic. I am absolutely thrilled," she said when The Associated Press informed her of the judge's decision. "Sometimes big justice comes in small packages. This is a victory for Honda Civic owners everywhere."

Honda hadn't seen the decision Wednesday afternoon but planned to issue a statement after it was reviewed, said spokesman Chris Martin.

Carnahan included in his 26-page decision a long list of misleading representations by Honda that he said Peters had correctly identified. Among them were that the car would use "amazingly little fuel," ''provides plenty of horsepower while still sipping fuel," and that it would "save plenty of money on fuel with up to 50 mpg during city driving."

"Actual performance of plaintiff's vehicle did not live up to these standards," he said. He noted that when she began receiving much less than the advertised mileage, "she knew she had a problem."

Peters opted out of the class-action lawsuit so she could try to claim a larger damage award for her 2006 Honda Civic's failure to deliver the 50 mpg that was promised.

The proposed class-action settlement would give aggrieved owners $100 to $200 each and a $1,000 credit toward the purchase of a new car. Legal fees in the class action would give trial lawyers $8.5 million, Peters said.

In small claims court, there are no attorneys' fees, cases are decided quickly, and individual payments are far greater.

Peters had hoped to inspire a flood of small-claims lawsuits by the other 200,000 people whose Honda Civic hybrids are covered by the proposed settlement. If all 200,000 owners sued and won in small claims court, she said, it could Honda Motor Co. $2 billion.

Peters launched a website, DontSettleWithHonda.org, and said she was contacted by hundreds of other car owners seeking guidance on filing small claims lawsuits if they opted out of the class-action case. But legal experts say it's unlikely that many owners would take the small-claims route because of the time and energy involved in pursuing such lawsuits.

Carnahan held two hearings on Peters' claim in January.

The commissioner noted that Honda had argued the way a car is driven might affect its gas mileage. He said that should have been explained in advertising and elsewhere.

A Honda technical expert testified that the company was required to post a sticker with the Environmental Protection Agency's estimate of the highest mileage the car could get. But Carnahan said in his ruling that "this does not seem to be the case."

"Honda's own testing should be the guideline for how it advertises its vehicles' mileages, not the generalized work ... done by the EPA," he said. "Can a Honda hybrid driven in careful and tested ways achieve 50 mpg? No doubt. Did it happen with Peters' car? No."

The ruling harshly criticized Honda on several points, including misrepresentations about a software update that was represented as a cure for the mileage problems. Peters said it just made the situation worse and she could no longer get more than 30 mpg in the car, which she still owns.

http://www.wral.com/business/story/10676417/
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« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2012, 09:26:36 PM »

 Roll Eyes

It will be overturned on appeal.  The whole idea of her successfully suing a car company because of vehicle mileage claims is idiotic.  dedhorse
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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2012, 06:08:05 AM »

Roll Eyes

It will be overturned on appeal.  The whole idea of her successfully suing a car company because of vehicle mileage claims is idiotic.  dedhorse

It will not be overturned.  She chose this route over the chump change she would have gotten in the Class Action lawsuit against Honda.

As usual cholly you are wrong again. 

I'm glad she stuck it to the lying Honda Motor Co. 
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