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« on: July 27, 2010, 05:59:06 AM »

finally an american stands up to city hall.

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Neseer Odeh, store manager for the Stop 'n Go Exxon station on Ploof Road in Leland was issued a citation for the flag flying at the station, which Odeh said measures 8 by 11 feet and is attached to a 60-foot pole.

The owner of an attention-grabbing American flag outside the Stop ‘n Go Exxon station on Ploof Road in Leland wants to work out an arrangement with town officials to keep it flying.

Despite a codes violation citation issued by the town, store manager Neseer Odeh said Friday the flag stays put. Meanwhile, fines of up to $50 a day are piling up, Mayor Walter Futch said.

Odeh said Stop ‘n Go owner Kalid Saleh doesn't want any trouble with the town, which also cited the business for not removing banners covering signs on the property in a timely fashion.

“He doesn't want to go against the city. He wants to work with the city,” Odeh said. “(But) the people are behind us, and we're not going to take the flag down. We love the flag.”

Odeh and Saleh are both natives of Jordan who have lived in the United State for decades. Both are naturalized U.S. citizens. Saleh flies the flag as a patriotic gesture, not as an advertising tool, Odeh said.

“He always puts a flag up in appreciation of the U.S.,” Odeh said.

Saleh flies oversize American flags outside more than 30 gas stations/convenience stores he owns in North Carolina, including an even bigger version of Old Glory at a gas station on North College Road in Wilmington.

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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2010, 06:46:44 AM »

That is such a non-story.
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2010, 07:22:18 AM »

Wrong again.  Cities and towns in this country are getting ridiculous with these stupid rules on flags and banners.  Somebody needs to stand up to them. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2010, 08:42:45 AM »

y,

Please stop while you are ahead. These businesses use the flag to rally support for their own ends.. Why would this clowns have a supersized flag almost touching the ground for a regular sized pole?
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2010, 09:12:45 AM »

that flag is not almost touching the ground.  the problem is most cities and towns will not allow a flag if it is 8 by 11 inches.  there is something wrong with that.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2010, 09:32:21 AM »

When somebody rams your azzz in the rear bumper...looking at a dayum flag....with no auto insurance...I BET YOU'LL CHANGE YOUR MIND THEN.

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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2010, 12:53:41 PM »

y,

Please stop while you are ahead. These businesses use the flag to rally support for their own ends.. Why would this clowns have a supersized flag almost touching the ground for a regular sized pole?

All about attention
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2010, 03:21:22 PM »

y,

Please stop while you are ahead. These businesses use the flag to rally support for their own ends.. Why would this clowns have a supersized flag almost touching the ground for a regular sized pole?

All about attention

wrong again.  the owner of this store flies the u.s. flag at his other 30 stores.
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2010, 08:07:30 PM »

^^^A PERFECT example of the conservative mindset at work here folks. crazy

Wh?y MISSED the part about how the owner of this station has been cited repeatedly in the past for violating city ordinances. Roll Eyes

But it's even DEEPER than that peeps. nono2

He ADVOCATES the individual going AGAINST the will of the community... which is EXACTLY what is happening here.

This isn't the UN making him take the flag down. It isn't NATO or even the Federal Government of the United States.

It's about as LOCAL as you can get, and this guy is telling his neighbors to kiss his Arab (or more likely Pakistani) ARSE.

And Wh?y is celebrating that fact. no

Like I said; conservatives are selfishass people who don't give a crap about anyone or anything else. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2010, 08:16:07 PM »

cholly, most cities and towns in north carolina have this ordnance.  in the 90s fayetteville annexed a part of the county and a chevy dealer that had been at the same location since the 50s always had the american flag flying and on weekends had flags on the car antennas.  the day the dealer was annexed they told the dealer he could not fly the flag and not put flags on the cars on the weekends.  the sad thing is most of these towns have democratic leadership.
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2010, 08:40:44 PM »

No... the SAD thing is you don't realize the fact that if the people.... the PEOPLE didn't want these ordinances.... THEY WOULD REPEAL THEM. Roll Eyes

YOU are against the constitution AND our Democracy... which doesn't suprise me one bit.

You conservatives talk about local governments being the purest form of government, but in the end you are all just hypocrites.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2010, 12:51:23 AM »

I think its part of the mentaility of members of the far right are somehow more patriotic than others. A trained monkey can tell you that the flag in the picture is too large for the pole. That type of flag belong on those one hundred or more foot tall poles on the interstate.
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2010, 01:37:19 AM »

I hope these flag wavering and lapel wearing folks on right were patriotic enough when it comes supporting ideas such as alternative energy, modernize our infrastructure, regulating wall-street and punishing coporations that move jobs overseas.. Heck, it would be nice if these right-wing support fair trade, raising tax rate on top one percent and consumption tax, food safety and destroy prison industrial complex..
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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2010, 05:05:15 AM »

what you people don't understand about these ordnances is it is not the size of the flag or banner.  they are outlawed inside the city limits.  most of these towns have ordnances on advertising on buildings.

the husband of a former co-worker opened a business in fayetteville.  he ordered a sign for his business.  his business was going to open approximately the same time fayetteville was going to annex the shopping center his business was located.  he went through the city department that handled signs and banners.  he got the necessary approval.  he installed his sign.  six months later a citizen complanied.  instead of the city honoring the waiver they fined him for the sign.  he had to sue fayetteville to keep his sign.  all this because his sign was about a hundred square inches larger than the city allowed. 

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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2010, 06:47:50 AM »

Bigger flag does not equal more patriotic.

How hard is it to get a smaller flag and display te bigger flag somewhere else? Maybe on a wall in the store? Or drape it in the store window..

I'm all for standing up for principle, but this is nonsensical...they didn't say he couldn't have a flag at all, just not one that big shrug
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