2010 SWAC TOURNAMENT

[Devin]

I think the conf tournament winners should never play in that dreaded play in game.  they should pit the last two at large teams in that game for the right to get their domes caved in by the #1 overall seed.

I think regular season conference champions should get automatic bids to the NCAA Tournament. JSU was 17-1 in the SWAC or something like that, but because they lost yesterday they can't go to the Big Dance.

There is no rule that says every conference has to hold a conference tournament. But America is a country that bows to money and ignores the best interest of its people at nearly every turn.

If JSU would have done their part and won they would have went to the NCAA Tournament.

JSU did. They went 17-1 in league play during the regular season. You are obviously a smart person. Why should a team like Grambling, who was 4-14 in SWAC play during the regular season have a other opportunity to make the NCAA Tournament?

If having conference tournaments were part of basketball, why doesn't the Ivy League hold one?

Why shouldn't they have an opportunity? They are playing through the same schedule (regular season then conference tournament) 30 out of 31 (outside of the Ivy League) conference are. Your argument is ithe SWAC doesn't want their lone rep being a 4 - 14 team, which is their perogative.

But don't make it seem like conference tournaments aren't part of NCAA Basketball. You're kidding and shi bulling yourself if u continue to go with this theory. Again, 30 out of 31 implies a conference doesn't have to have a tournament but it's part of NCAA Basketball. And in D2 all the conferences have a tournament. Probably D3 and NAIA as well.

Why shouldn't Grambling have an opportunity? Are you serious. They finished the regular season a combined 23 games below.500. That's why. 

Why are you rewarding a team like that with an equal shot at making the NCAA Tournament by way of the SWAC Tournament just like your 17-1 regular season champion when the league does not implement byes for the top seeds?

You basically are telling all the teams in the league that a four-day conference tournament means more than an 18-game regular season schedule.

No matter how bad you play in the conference. No matter how well you play in the conference. The regular season does not matter.

Additionally, you go out and ask these kids to start the regular season against BCS schools on their turf to take beat downs all in the name of supplementing your meager athletic budgets. Then that team recovers, goes 17-1 while winning their last 13 straight conference games to end the regular season only to be told that sterling record does not matter come SWAC-T.   

You know your conference RPI blows because of how week the league is compared to others. But yet you place another obstacle in the way of at least the conference placing a respectable team in the field of 65.

I know if a team wins that many games, they probably should win the conference tournament. But teams have bad nights, guys get hurt and breaks don't always go your way in single elimination situation.

Yes, I know conference tourneys are part of college basketball. They are nothing more than money grabs. Not to determine who really the best team in the conference is.

If conference tourneys mattered, why is the Big East allowing all 16 teams to play?

There is no reason for teams in the same conference to be playing each other three times in a season when it is not necessary.  You have college basketball coaches saying the regular season means more than the conference tournament does.

JSU went 17-1. What else did they have to prove in the SWAC this year?  As I said earlier, these tournaments are just another ploy to make money. Nothing more. Nothing less.

[Wildcat1025]

I think the conf tournament winners should never play in that dreaded play in game.  they should pit the last two at large teams in that game for the right to get their domes caved in by the #1 overall seed.

I think regular season conference champions should get automatic bids to the NCAA Tournament. JSU was 17-1 in the SWAC or something like that, but because they lost yesterday they can't go to the Big Dance.

There is no rule that says every conference has to hold a conference tournament. But America is a country that bows to money and ignores the best interest of its people at nearly every turn.

If JSU would have done their part and won they would have went to the NCAA Tournament.

JSU did. They went 17-1 in league play during the regular season. You are obviously a smart person. Why should a team like Grambling, who was 4-14 in SWAC play during the regular season have a other opportunity to make the NCAA Tournament?

If having conference tournaments were part of basketball, why doesn't the Ivy League hold one?

Why shouldn't they have an opportunity? They are playing through the same schedule (regular season then conference tournament) 30 out of 31 (outside of the Ivy League) conference are. Your argument is ithe SWAC doesn't want their lone rep being a 4 - 14 team, which is their perogative.

But don't make it seem like conference tournaments aren't part of NCAA Basketball. You're kidding and shi bulling yourself if u continue to go with this theory. Again, 30 out of 31 implies a conference doesn't have to have a tournament but it's part of NCAA Basketball. And in D2 all the conferences have a tournament. Probably D3 and NAIA as well.

Why shouldn't Grambling have an opportunity? Are you serious. They finished the regular season a combined 23 games below.500. That's why. 

Why are you rewarding a team like that with an equal shot at making the NCAA Tournament by way of the SWAC Tournament just like your 17-1 regular season champion when the league does not implement byes for the top seeds?

You basically are telling all the teams in the league that a four-day conference tournament means more than an 18-game regular season schedule.

No matter how bad you play in the conference. No matter how well you play in the conference. The regular season does not matter.

Additionally, you go out and ask these kids to start the regular season against BCS schools on their turf to take beat downs all in the name of supplementing your meager athletic budgets. Then that team recovers, goes 17-1 while winning their last 13 straight conference games to end the regular season only to be told that sterling record does not matter come SWAC-T.   

You know your conference RPI blows because of how week the league is compared to others. But yet you place another obstacle in the way of at least the conference placing a respectable team in the field of 65.

I know if a team wins that many games, they probably should win the conference tournament. But teams have bad nights, guys get hurt and breaks don't always go your way in single elimination situation.

Yes, I know conference tourneys are part of college basketball. They are nothing more than money grabs. Not to determine who really the best team in the conference is.

If conference tourneys mattered, why is the Big East allowing all 16 teams to play?

There is no reason for teams in the same conference to be playing each other three times in a season when it is not necessary.  You have college basketball coaches saying the regular season means more than the conference tournament does.

JSU went 17-1. What else did they have to prove in the SWAC this year?  As I said earlier, these tournaments are just another ploy to make money. Nothing more. Nothing less.

A ploy to  make money, ok. But it has also been the tradition for decades. It's college basketball period. I'm not taking anything away from your statements. It may be about money.

Maybe the SWAC does need to just send their best team; but what if there are 3 or 4 teams within 2 games of each other? Are you just going to say they don't get an opportunity for an automatic bid the traditional way? The bottom teams in the SWAC already don't make the conference tournament.

We'll just have to agree to disagree

[Devin]

I think the conf tournament winners should never play in that dreaded play in game.  they should pit the last two at large teams in that game for the right to get their domes caved in by the #1 overall seed.

I think regular season conference champions should get automatic bids to the NCAA Tournament. JSU was 17-1 in the SWAC or something like that, but because they lost yesterday they can't go to the Big Dance.

There is no rule that says every conference has to hold a conference tournament. But America is a country that bows to money and ignores the best interest of its people at nearly every turn.

If JSU would have done their part and won they would have went to the NCAA Tournament.

JSU did. They went 17-1 in league play during the regular season. You are obviously a smart person. Why should a team like Grambling, who was 4-14 in SWAC play during the regular season have a other opportunity to make the NCAA Tournament?

If having conference tournaments were part of basketball, why doesn't the Ivy League hold one?

Why shouldn't they have an opportunity? They are playing through the same schedule (regular season then conference tournament) 30 out of 31 (outside of the Ivy League) conference are. Your argument is ithe SWAC doesn't want their lone rep being a 4 - 14 team, which is their perogative.

But don't make it seem like conference tournaments aren't part of NCAA Basketball. You're kidding and shi bulling yourself if u continue to go with this theory. Again, 30 out of 31 implies a conference doesn't have to have a tournament but it's part of NCAA Basketball. And in D2 all the conferences have a tournament. Probably D3 and NAIA as well.

Why shouldn't Grambling have an opportunity? Are you serious. They finished the regular season a combined 23 games below.500. That's why. 

Why are you rewarding a team like that with an equal shot at making the NCAA Tournament by way of the SWAC Tournament just like your 17-1 regular season champion when the league does not implement byes for the top seeds?

You basically are telling all the teams in the league that a four-day conference tournament means more than an 18-game regular season schedule.

No matter how bad you play in the conference. No matter how well you play in the conference. The regular season does not matter.

Additionally, you go out and ask these kids to start the regular season against BCS schools on their turf to take beat downs all in the name of supplementing your meager athletic budgets. Then that team recovers, goes 17-1 while winning their last 13 straight conference games to end the regular season only to be told that sterling record does not matter come SWAC-T.   

You know your conference RPI blows because of how week the league is compared to others. But yet you place another obstacle in the way of at least the conference placing a respectable team in the field of 65.

I know if a team wins that many games, they probably should win the conference tournament. But teams have bad nights, guys get hurt and breaks don't always go your way in single elimination situation.

Yes, I know conference tourneys are part of college basketball. They are nothing more than money grabs. Not to determine who really the best team in the conference is.

If conference tourneys mattered, why is the Big East allowing all 16 teams to play?

There is no reason for teams in the same conference to be playing each other three times in a season when it is not necessary.  You have college basketball coaches saying the regular season means more than the conference tournament does.

JSU went 17-1. What else did they have to prove in the SWAC this year?  As I said earlier, these tournaments are just another ploy to make money. Nothing more. Nothing less.

A ploy to  make money, ok. But it has also been the tradition for decades. It's college basketball period. I'm not taking anything away from your statements. It may be about money.

Maybe the SWAC does need to just send their best team; but what if there are 3 or 4 teams within 2 games of each other? Are you just going to say they don't get an opportunity for an automatic bid the traditional way? The bottom teams in the SWAC already don't make the conference tournament.

We'll just have to agree to disagree

Sometimes we have to throw tradition out the window and just do what is right based on the circumstances presented.  All I am saying is that if you are going to crown a regular season champion, that team should get the automatic bid.  If the conference tournament matters, then don't crown a regular season champ.

It kinda sends mixed messages otherwise.

[DaBassman]

I think the conf tournament winners should never play in that dreaded play in game.  they should pit the last two at large teams in that game for the right to get their domes caved in by the #1 overall seed.

I think regular season conference champions should get automatic bids to the NCAA Tournament. JSU was 17-1 in the SWAC or something like that, but because they lost yesterday they can't go to the Big Dance.

There is no rule that says every conference has to hold a conference tournament. But America is a country that bows to money and ignores the best interest of its people at nearly every turn.

If JSU would have done their part and won they would have went to the NCAA Tournament.

JSU did. They went 17-1 in league play during the regular season. You are obviously a smart person. Why should a team like Grambling, who was 4-14 in SWAC play during the regular season have a other opportunity to make the NCAA Tournament?

If having conference tournaments were part of basketball, why doesn't the Ivy League hold one?

   If you are allegedly that good and you can't beat a 4-14 SWAC team, what difference does it make if you go to the NCAA.  You gonna get the same result as GSU one and done.  

[Wildcat1025]

I think the conf tournament winners should never play in that dreaded play in game.  they should pit the last two at large teams in that game for the right to get their domes caved in by the #1 overall seed.

I think regular season conference champions should get automatic bids to the NCAA Tournament. JSU was 17-1 in the SWAC or something like that, but because they lost yesterday they can't go to the Big Dance.

There is no rule that says every conference has to hold a conference tournament. But America is a country that bows to money and ignores the best interest of its people at nearly every turn.

If JSU would have done their part and won they would have went to the NCAA Tournament.

JSU did. They went 17-1 in league play during the regular season. You are obviously a smart person. Why should a team like Grambling, who was 4-14 in SWAC play during the regular season have a other opportunity to make the NCAA Tournament?

If having conference tournaments were part of basketball, why doesn't the Ivy League hold one?

   If you are allegedly that good and you can't beat a 4-14 SWAC team, what difference does it make if you go to the NCAA.  You gonna get the same result as GSU one and done.  

Exactly! Like I said, if Jackson State did their part and beat a 4 - 14 squad, then there would be no issue.

[Professor]

I think the conf tournament winners should never play in that dreaded play in game.  they should pit the last two at large teams in that game for the right to get their domes caved in by the #1 overall seed.

I think regular season conference champions should get automatic bids to the NCAA Tournament. JSU was 17-1 in the SWAC or something like that, but because they lost yesterday they can't go to the Big Dance.

There is no rule that says every conference has to hold a conference tournament. But America is a country that bows to money and ignores the best interest of its people at nearly every turn.

If JSU would have done their part and won they would have went to the NCAA Tournament.

JSU did. They went 17-1 in league play during the regular season. You are obviously a smart person. Why should a team like Grambling, who was 4-14 in SWAC play during the regular season have a other opportunity to make the NCAA Tournament?

If having conference tournaments were part of basketball, why doesn't the Ivy League hold one?

   If you are allegedly that good and you can't beat a 4-14 SWAC team, what difference does it make if you go to the NCAA.  You gonna get the same result as GSU one and done.  

Exactly and now you have a team in the NIT and NCAA.

[DaBassman]

I think the conf tournament winners should never play in that dreaded play in game.  they should pit the last two at large teams in that game for the right to get their domes caved in by the #1 overall seed.

I think regular season conference champions should get automatic bids to the NCAA Tournament. JSU was 17-1 in the SWAC or something like that, but because they lost yesterday they can't go to the Big Dance.

There is no rule that says every conference has to hold a conference tournament. But America is a country that bows to money and ignores the best interest of its people at nearly every turn.

If JSU would have done their part and won they would have went to the NCAA Tournament.

JSU did. They went 17-1 in league play during the regular season. You are obviously a smart person. Why should a team like Grambling, who was 4-14 in SWAC play during the regular season have a other opportunity to make the NCAA Tournament?

If having conference tournaments were part of basketball, why doesn't the Ivy League hold one?

   If you are allegedly that good and you can't beat a 4-14 SWAC team, what difference does it make if you go to the NCAA.  You gonna get the same result as GSU one and done.  

Exactly and now you have a team in the NIT and NCAA.

I doubt if they will be invited to NIT with a 19-12 record.  Possible but highly unlikely.  They only beat SWAC opponents and loss handily to most OCC opponents. 

[The Sloping Hills and Verdent Green]

I think the conf tournament winners should never play in that dreaded play in game.  they should pit the last two at large teams in that game for the right to get their domes caved in by the #1 overall seed.

I think regular season conference champions should get automatic bids to the NCAA Tournament. JSU was 17-1 in the SWAC or something like that, but because they lost yesterday they can't go to the Big Dance.

There is no rule that says every conference has to hold a conference tournament. But America is a country that bows to money and ignores the best interest of its people at nearly every turn.

If JSU would have done their part and won they would have went to the NCAA Tournament.

JSU did. They went 17-1 in league play during the regular season. You are obviously a smart person. Why should a team like Grambling, who was 4-14 in SWAC play during the regular season have a other opportunity to make the NCAA Tournament?

If having conference tournaments were part of basketball, why doesn't the Ivy League hold one?

   If you are allegedly that good and you can't beat a 4-14 SWAC team, what difference does it make if you go to the NCAA.  You gonna get the same result as GSU one and done.  

Exactly and now you have a team in the NIT and NCAA.

I doubt if they will be invited to NIT with a 19-12 record.  Possible but highly unlikely.  They only beat SWAC opponents and loss handily to most OCC opponents. 

The NIT invites schools that won their regular but were upset in their conference tournament.  JSU will be going to the NIT.

[Golden Kitten]

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