And now the Rams look forward to CIAA...

[PharoahNupe94]

1) Was WSSU really financially able to support DIAA at this time or would it have put an burden on the college and it's students?

To answer your question YES......Everything was going well until this dumb a-- Chancellor came in and screw it all up.

2) Is the MEAC/IAA worth it? I'm not trying to down the MEAC but lets be honest here. If you're not in the highest NCAA level, you're not highly regarded. I was watching a football movie once and they made a joke of the fact they had Appalachian State on their schedule. On the day high school players sign letters of intent, if you're not going to a DI school, the camera pans on past you

Yes it was worth it.

Cap,
You are entitled to your opinion just like I have the right not to support wssu athletics
or wssu as awhole financially if I choose too.  

[Capler]

I don't care what level WSSU plays on I will support them win,lose,or draw "Go WSSU Rams!!!!"

Give me some of that juice that you are sipping on 
I'm just not feeling it right now!   

Juice? hear him talk about Miles College athletics and you will know there might be a little bit more than juice involved here.

[Capler]

1) Was WSSU really financially able to support DIAA at this time or would it have put an burden on the college and it's students?

To answer your question YES......Everything was going well until this dumb a-- Chancellor came in and screw it all up.

2) Is the MEAC/IAA worth it? I'm not trying to down the MEAC but lets be honest here. If you're not in the highest NCAA level, you're not highly regarded. I was watching a football movie once and they made a joke of the fact they had Appalachian State on their schedule. On the day high school players sign letters of intent, if you're not going to a DI school, the camera pans on past you

Yes it was worth it.

Cap,
You are entitled to your opinion just like I have the right not to support wssu athletics
or wssu as awhole financially if I choose too.  

Help me to understand, why did the chancellor sabotage the process?  You think he was looking forward and saw a potential problem down the road? I do know y'all have an expensive stadium situation. I feel WSSU could have made it work if somehow you could have address the stadium issue. What was it, $15,000 per game to play there, with no concessions or parking? WSSU needed to own that place since it is right on your campus, but I understand why the college would not want to own that old stadium that needs major repairs. I hope the college buys it one day and tear it down and replace it. Y'all need something modern like Aggie Stadium, not a crumbling  concrete bowl.  I feel if you get the right people on the city council, that place could be yours, but the college will need to have a plan in place to  deal with it. A&T is in a similar situation with Memorial Stadium. A&T needs to own the place, but honestly it needs to be torn down first.

[PharoahNupe94]

I don't care what level WSSU plays on I will support them win,lose,or draw "Go WSSU Rams!!!!"

Give me some of that juice that you are sipping on 
I'm just not feeling it right now!   

Juice? hear him talk about Miles College athletics and you will know there might be a little bit more than juice involved here.

 

[Meciber 202]

1) Was WSSU really financially able to support DIAA at this time or would it have put an burden on the college and it's students?

To answer your question YES......Everything was going well until this dumb a-- Chancellor came in and screw it all up.

2) Is the MEAC/IAA worth it? I'm not trying to down the MEAC but lets be honest here. If you're not in the highest NCAA level, you're not highly regarded. I was watching a football movie once and they made a joke of the fact they had Appalachian State on their schedule. On the day high school players sign letters of intent, if you're not going to a DI school, the camera pans on past you

Yes it was worth it.

Cap,
You are entitled to your opinion just like I have the right not to support wssu athletics
or wssu as awhole financially if I choose too. 

Help me to understand, why did the chancellor sabotage the process?  You think he was looking forward and saw a potential problem down the road? I do know y'all have an expensive stadium situation. I feel WSSU could have made it work if somehow you could have address the stadium issue. What was it, $15,000 per game to play there, with no concessions or parking? WSSU needed to own that place since it is right on your campus, but I understand why the college would not want to own that old stadium that needs major repairs. I hope the college buys it one day and tear it down and replace it. Y'all need something modern like Aggie Stadium, not a crumbling  concrete bowl.  I feel if you get the right people on the city council, that place could be yours, but the college will need to have a plan in place to  deal with it. A&T is in a similar situation with Memorial Stadium. A&T needs to own the place, but honestly it needs to be torn down first.

Where you been Cap, OSR has been shouting this out for a "group of Sundays".

In regards to the stadium deal at WSSU, their move back to CIAA (IMHO) does not fix that problem. And whatever stadium solution they come up with, could have been done in MEAC. Did the chancellor even try.

[Capler]

That's true.

[PharoahNupe94]

Where you been Cap, OSR has been shouting this out for a "group of Sundays".

In regards to the stadium deal at WSSU, their move back to CIAA (IMHO) does not fix that problem. And whatever stadium solution they come up with, could have been done in MEAC. Did the chancellor even try.

Thanks meciber

Heck naw
He rolled his eyes  when that subject came up 

[Wildcat1025]

I don't care what level WSSU plays on I will support them win,lose,or draw "Go WSSU Rams!!!!"

Give me some of that juice that you are sipping on 

Some times MB1 sips some juice with some moon shine in it regarding his posts. He claimed the other day he is in a wait and see mode for this upcoming football season but watch his responses with a win  Straight moon shine 

[Oldschoolram]

Where you been Cap, OSR has been shouting this out for a "group of Sundays".

In regards to the stadium deal at WSSU, their move back to CIAA (IMHO) does not fix that problem. And whatever stadium solution they come up with, could have been done in MEAC. Did the chancellor even try.

Thanks meciber

Heck naw
He rolled his eyes  when that subject came up 

Yes, the bear is either getting old or he believes Reaves too. And thank you for reminding folks that going D2 won't solve any of our problems.  Yes, the stadium deal is bad.  The funny thing about parking is that until we went D1, we NEVER charged for parking except for tailgate spaces.  Even that wasn't in full effect until D1. The stadium IS ancient.  In fact, it's likely eligble to be a historic site.

Why did the man sabotage the move?  All of the below are possible. Most are true, reason or no reason.

A.  HE didn't think of it, Harold Martin did.  It's obvious that he has a distaste for Martin.
B.  He is a $ COUNTER, not a fund raiser as a college CEO needs to be
C.  He has no vision
D.  He doesn't understand the value of athletics
E.  He has NO clue about HBCUs, even after two years.

How did you manage to make EVERYone hate you and you've only been at WSSU for two years?

 as asked by a high level official.
F.  He's dishonest
G.  He's disingenuine
H. He THINKS that going D2 will solve our academic issues, though D1 students have higher academic requirements than d2 athletes, and the student body at large.
I. Back to B, he has no personality to make the contacts needed to help move the SCHOOL forward
J. Erskine told him to do it.
K.  Because like "Snap" He Got The Power!!!

etc., etc., etc.,

[Ramshouse]

Thanks Oldschool for providing some insight into our problem. 
The alumni keep getting beat up on this issue.  People keep saying that we are putting athletics before education.  So for the learning impaired we will try this again:
Under Chancellor Harold Martin we were in the midst of a capital campaign, otherwise known as the 1892 fund.  The goal was to raise 18million 9hundred and twenty thousand dollars.  The name came from the year that WSSU was founded in 1892.
We have not heard a thing about the fund since Chancellor Martin left.  Now Mr WSSUGuy who we already know has not paid his alumni dues, will tell you that we only got into the hundreds of thousands of dollars.  But, I KNOW that we raised more than that.  We had contributions from local corporations that will not touch WSSU with a ten foot pole since Chancellor Reaves has arrived.  One of the problems is that WSSU is one of the largest employers and businesses in the city.  However, the chancellor does not see fit to even attend  chamber of commerce meetings.
We were number one (#1) in our category in US News and World Report during the time of Chancellor Martin.  We have dropped down almost into the twenties now.
By the way I see that no one has yet mentioned that our alumni leadership went to talk to the president of University of North Carolina school system, Erskine Bowles.  In that meeting not one mention was made about athletics.  Rather we focused on education, lack of community involvement, closing of the Early Childhood Center, and kids getting hit on Martin Luther King Drive.  I would comment on the response that we received from Mr. Bowles but I am not allowed to cuss on this website.
So lay off the alumni and place some blame on the leadership.

[PharoahNupe94]

     THANK YOU 

[Ramshouse]

See that's why I love you Pharoah, you GET IT!!

[Capler]

I do understand  what you Rams are saying about your Chancellor. His direction makes all the difference in the world. At Shaw Dr. Yancey is everything thing our previous leader was not. Newsome was not a fundraiser or a counter; Yancey is both. Since being at Shaw, Yancey has not borrowed a penny and forced the college to live within it's means ( and she had made needed campus repairs).  She has removed our debt from Bank of America, put it in the hands of the Department of Education and refinanced to a lower interest rate and most importantly,  reduced the amount of collateral required.
Trust me, I do believe what you Rams are saying about your leadership, I am a first hand witness with Shaw's situation. Our previous president was blaming everybody except himself for his own shortcomings.  I wish you Cats luck with this dude, sounds like you are going to need it.

[Callystarr]

I do understand  what you Rams are saying about your Chancellor. His direction makes all the difference in the world. At Shaw Dr. Yancey is everything thing our previous leader was not. Newsome was not a fundraiser or a counter; Yancey is both. Since being at Shaw, Yancey has not borrowed a penny and forced the college to live within it's means ( and she had made needed campus repairs).  She has removed our debt from Bank of America, put it in the hands of the Department of Education and refinanced to a lower interest rate and most importantly,  reduced the amount of collateral required.
Trust me, I do believe what you Rams are saying about your leadership, I am a first hand witness with Shaw's situation. Our previous president was blaming everybody except himself for his own shortcomings.  I wish you Cats luck with this dude, sounds like you are going to need it.

Dr. Yancy might be doing wonderful things for Shaw...

but she was nightmare for JCSU alumni.

[Capler]

I would not say she was a nightmare for JCSU. She kept the school in the black and built up the endowment. I respect her for not willing to sell the farm in the name of athletics. She can't really do too much at Shaw about athletics as long as Gary is making it work. Sadly, sports was not even an issue for Newsome at Shaw, all he needed to do was raise money for academics, but he could not do that. Any president should love being in a position where athletics was none of their concern. Whenever Shaw sports teams needed something, Gary wrote the check. It did not even come out of the general funds for the most part. The other year when the band could not afford to make a out of town trip, Gary wrote a $3,000 check for gas.