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« on: November 24, 2009, 12:44:09 PM »

What's Barry going to do about this fraud? I bet this doesn't happen, because Barry's a fraud himself.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/

Tuesday, November 24, 2009
EDITORIAL: Hiding evidence of global cooling


THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Scientific progress depends on accurate and complete data. It also relies on replication. The past couple of days have uncovered some shocking revelations about the baloney practices that pass as sound science about climate change.

It was announced Thursday afternoon that computer hackers had obtained 160 megabytes of e-mails from the Climate Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia (UEA) in England. Those e-mails involved communication among many scientific researchers and policy advocates with similar ideological positions all across the world. Those purported authorities were brazenly discussing the destruction and hiding of data that did not support global-warming claims.

Professor Phil Jones, the head of the Climate Research Unit, and professor Michael E. Mann at Pennsylvania State University, who has been an important scientist in the climate debate, have come under particular scrutiny. Among his e-mails, Mr. Jones talked to Mr. Mann about the "trick of adding in the real temps to each series ... to hide the decline [in temperature]."

Mr. Mann admitted that he was party to this conversation and lamely explained to the New York Times that "scientists often used the word 'trick' to refer to a good way to solve a problem 'and not something secret.' " Though the liberal New York newspaper apparently buys this explanation, we have seen no benign explanation that justifies efforts by researchers to skew data on so-called global-warming "to hide the decline." Given the controversies over the accuracy of Mr. Mann's past research, it is surprising his current explanations are accepted so readily.

There is a lot of damning evidence about these researchers concealing information that counters their bias. In another exchange, Mr. Jones told Mr. Mann: "If they ever hear there is a Freedom of Information Act now in the UK, I think I'll delete the file rather than send to anyone" and, "We also have a data protection act, which I will hide behind." Mr. Jones further urged Mr. Mann to join him in deleting e-mail exchanges about the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's (IPCC) controversial assessment report (ARA): "Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re [the IPCC's Fourth Assessment Report]?"

In another e-mail, Mr. Jones told Mr. Mann, professor Malcolm K. Hughes of the University of Arizona and professor Raymond S. Bradley of the University of Massachusetts at Amherst: "I'm getting hassled by a couple of people to release the CRU station temperature data. Don't any of you three tell anybody that the UK has a Freedom of Information Act!"

At one point, Mr. Jones complained to another academic, "I did get an email from the [Freedom of Information] person here early yesterday to tell me I shouldn't be deleting emails." He also offered up more dubious tricks of his trade, specifically that "IPCC is an international organization, so is above any national FOI. Even if UEA holds anything about IPCC, we are not obliged to pass it on." Another professor at the Climate Research Unit, Tim Osborn, discussed in e-mails how truncating a data series can hide a cooling trend that otherwise would be seen in the results. Mr. Mann sent Mr. Osborn an e-mail saying that the results he was sending shouldn't be shown to others because the data support critics of global warming.

Repeatedly throughout the e-mails that have been made public, proponents of global-warming theories refer to data that has been hidden or destroyed. Only e-mails from Mr. Jones' institution have been made public, and with his obvious approach to deleting sensitive files, it's difficult to determine exactly how much more information has been lost that could be damaging to the global-warming theocracy and its doomsday forecasts.

We don't condone e-mail theft by hackers, though these e-mails were covered by Britain's Freedom of Information Act and should have been released. The content of these e-mails raises extremely serious questions that could end the academic careers of many prominent professors. Academics who have purposely hidden data, destroyed information and doctored their results have committed scientific fraud. We can only hope respected academic institutions such as Pennsylvania State University, the University of Arizona and the University of Massachusetts at Amherst conduct proper investigative inquiries.

Most important, however, these revelations of fudged science should have a cooling effect on global-warming hysteria and the panicked policies that are being pushed forward to address the unproven theory.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/24/hiding-evidence-of-global-cooling//print/
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2009, 12:49:43 PM »

Global warming is true.
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2009, 12:56:39 PM »

Global warming is true.

It's a big a-- lies....They have the corrupt e-mails. There are countless e-mails that are already hitting the internet. Of course, the drive-by media who were in the tank for this BS hoax is not ready to give up the ghost just yet. However, the world of BS global warming is coming down around their azzes. Just like the fraud Barry's going to come down.  It's been based on junk science.

You want to continue to defend this fraud.
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2009, 12:59:13 PM »

People are starting to dump alternative energy stocks now...IDIOT.
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2009, 01:02:34 PM »


Recent news reports seems to confirm that suspected hackers have indeed hacked into the University of East Anglia Climate Research Center and published what some are claiming is a mushroom cloud of e-mail evidence that scientists are falsley manipulating data that overstate Anthropogenic (man-made) global warming.  While some are decrying collusion, East Anglia has jumped on the defensive and released a statement claiming that some e-mails are being taken out of context. Other advocates say it's nothing more than scientific e-mail conversations with the overwhelming body of evidence pointing to man-made global warming.

Here's a list of the most contentious quotes  published by the Telegraph that the skeptics are using

In addition, Climatologists are puzzled as to why average global temperatures have stopped rising over the last 10 years"  Even global warming supporter, Mojib Latif, a member of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is reported to have stated that ""that we may indeed be in a period of cooling worldwide temperatures that could last another 10-20 years."

With billions at stake, the battle rages on and each side jockeys for position, we wonder will this be one of the most significant hacks in history or just a whole lotta hot air?.

In the meantime, we'll just keep hoping that one day we'll see an accurate 10-day forecast.

Recent news reports seems to confirm that suspected hackers have indeed hacked into the University of East Anglia Climate Research Center and published what some are claiming is a mushroom cloud of e-mail evidence that scientists are falsley manipulating data that overstate Anthropogenic (man-made) global warming.  While some are decrying collusion, East Anglia has jumped on the defensive and released a statement claiming that some e-mails are being taken out of context. Other advocates say it's nothing more than scientific e-mail conversations with the overwhelming body of evidence pointing to man-made global warming.

Here's a list of the most contentious quotes  published by the Telegraph that the skeptics are using

In addition, Climatologists are puzzled as to why average global temperatures have stopped rising over the last 10 years"  Even global warming supporter, Mojib Latif, a member of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is reported to have stated that ""that we may indeed be in a period of cooling worldwide temperatures that could last another 10-20 years."

With billions at stake, the battle rages on and each side jockeys for position, we wonder will this be one of the most significant hacks in history or just a whole lotta hot air?.

In the meantime, we'll just keep hoping that one day we'll see an accurate 10-day forecast.

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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2009, 01:20:48 PM »

Come on you liberal azzholes...give me some of that old yokey doke BS that you're feed by your masters - the elite leftest....



NOVEMBER 24, 2009

Global Warming With The Lid Off

'The two MMs have been after the CRU station data for years. If they ever hear there is a Freedom of Information Act now in the U.K., I think I'll delete the file rather than send to anyone. . . . We also have a data protection act, which I will hide behind."

So apparently wrote Phil Jones, director of the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit (CRU) and one of the world's leading climate scientists, in a 2005 email to "Mike." Judging by the email thread, this refers to Michael Mann, director of the Pennsylvania State University's Earth System Science Center. We found this nugget among the more than 3,000 emails and documents released last week after CRU's servers were hacked and messages among some of the world's most influential climatologists were published on the Internet.

The "two MMs" are almost certainly Stephen McIntyre and Ross McKitrick, two Canadians who have devoted years to seeking the raw data and codes used in climate graphs and models, then fact-checking the published conclusions—a painstaking task that strikes us as a public and scientific service. Mr. Jones did not return requests for comment and the university said it could not confirm that all the emails were authentic, though it acknowledged its servers were hacked.

Yet even a partial review of the emails is highly illuminating. In them, scientists appear to urge each other to present a "unified" view on the theory of man-made climate change while discussing the importance of the "common cause"; to advise each other on how to smooth over data so as not to compromise the favored hypothesis; to discuss ways to keep opposing views out of leading journals; and to give tips on how to "hide the decline" of temperature in certain inconvenient data.

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Some of those mentioned in the emails have responded to our requests for comment by saying they must first chat with their lawyers. Others have offered legal threats and personal invective. Still others have said nothing at all. Those who have responded have insisted that the emails reveal nothing more than trivial data discrepancies and procedural debates.

Yet all of these nonresponses manage to underscore what may be the most revealing truth: That these scientists feel the public doesn't have a right to know the basis for their climate-change predictions, even as their governments prepare staggeringly expensive legislation in response to them.

Consider the following note that appears to have been sent by Mr. Jones to Mr. Mann in May 2008: "Mike, Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4? Keith will do likewise. . . . Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same?" AR4 is shorthand for the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel of Climate Change's (IPCC) Fourth Assessment Report, presented in 2007 as the consensus view on how bad man-made climate change has supposedly become.

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In another email that seems to have been sent in September 2007 to Eugene Wahl of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Paleoclimatology Program and to Caspar Ammann of the National Center for Atmospheric Research's Climate and Global Dynamics Division, Mr. Jones writes: "[T]ry and change the Received date! Don't give those skeptics something to amuse themselves with."

When deleting, doctoring or withholding information didn't work, Mr. Jones suggested an alternative in an August 2008 email to Gavin Schmidt of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, copied to Mr. Mann. "The FOI [Freedom of Information] line we're all using is this," he wrote. "IPCC is exempt from any countries FOI—the skeptics have been told this. Even though we . . . possibly hold relevant info the IPCC is not part of our remit (mission statement, aims etc) therefore we don't have an obligation to pass it on."

It also seems Mr. Mann and his friends weren't averse to blacklisting scientists who disputed some of their contentions, or journals that published their work. "I think we have to stop considering 'Climate Research' as a legitimate peer-reviewed journal," goes one email, apparently written by Mr. Mann to several recipients in March 2003. "Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in the climate research community to no longer submit to, or cite papers in, this journal."

Mr. Mann's main beef was that the journal had published several articles challenging aspects of the anthropogenic theory of global warming.

For the record, when we've asked Mr. Mann in the past about the charge that he and his colleagues suppress opposing views, he has said he "won't dignify that question with a response." Regarding our most recent queries about the hacked emails, he says he "did not manipulate any data in any conceivable way," but he otherwise refuses to answer specific questions. For the record, too, our purpose isn't to gainsay the probity of Mr. Mann's work, much less his right to remain silent.

However, we do now have hundreds of emails that give every appearance of testifying to concerted and coordinated efforts by leading climatologists to fit the data to their conclusions while attempting to silence and discredit their critics. In the department of inconvenient truths, this one surely deserves a closer look by the media, the U.S. Congress and other investigative bodies.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704888404574547730924988354.html
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2009, 01:36:58 PM »

oldsport,


What is your source?
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2009, 02:00:17 PM »

oldsport,


What is your source?

I know everytime I prove liberals are liars it hurts you and others here.

Liberals talk that want to save the earth, want to help the poor, want to punish the rich BS...all the time. K----s like you lap it up like fools and get screwed everytime.
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2009, 02:35:12 PM »

Oldsport,

What is your scientific source that global warming is not correct?
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2009, 02:59:05 PM »

I thought ice caps have been melting for the past few decades.  Isn't that part of global warming?
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2009, 03:24:25 PM »

Global warming is a fact.....the geologic record proves that. Ice ages have come and gone and will continue to come and go. Al Gore and his ilk would have you believe that we are the cause of it..... we aren't. Our impact MAY be that we are speeding things up but we are hardly the cause. GO VIKINGS!!!
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2009, 05:05:52 PM »

Global warming is a fact.....the geologic record proves that. Ice ages have come and gone and will continue to come and go. Al Gore and his ilk would have you believe that we are the cause of it..... we aren't. Our impact MAY be that we are speeding things up but we are hardly the cause. GO VIKINGS!!!

DO YOU THINK "ASSHOLE" WILL BELIEVE IN THE TRUTH OF GLOBAL WARMING IF IT COMES FROM YOUR MOUTH AND NOT FROM THAT OF A DEMOCRAT?   I WONDER?   tiptoe
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2009, 11:37:31 PM »

Global warming is true.

Of course it's true.  The lie is mankind is causes it. Did mankind cause the earth to warm from the previous ice age?


And while you're at it, tell Al Gore to turn off some of them lights in that mansion and stop jetting around the world burning fossil fuel.  Tell him to use his invention the INTERNET to get his lie, err,  message out.
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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2009, 05:52:00 AM »

Global warming is true.

Of course it's true.  The lie is mankind is causes it. Did mankind cause the earth to warm from the previous ice age?


And while you're at it, tell Al Gore to turn off some of them lights in that mansion and stop jetting around the world burning fossil fuel.  Tell him to use his invention the INTERNET to get his lie, err,  message out.

M&G,

The population of Earth in the previous iceage was minimum,plus it was long before city-states and the industrial revolution.thus your argument is flawed.The population of this planet is approaching seven billion, each human created how much waste per year? Add the millions of carbon emitting plants,cars,etc and you have a timebomb.
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« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2009, 09:18:11 AM »

Argument is only flawed if you want to believe that now only mankind is creating global warming.  That is how I interpret all the global warming 'concern' these days.    I'm not saying that humankind is not a contributor, I'm just not believing the Al Gore hype.
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