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« Reply #45 on: November 20, 2009, 07:50:45 PM »

Psalms 109:8, An Ugly Prayer for President Obama

Monday November 16, 2009
Categories: News, Politics, Pop Culture, Religion

Any time the citizens of a state, particularly a democracy, invoke their faith to pray for the demise of those they oppose politically, we should be concerned. When the call for such prayers becomes one of the most popular Google searches in the country, we should shake, especially those of us who believe in God, prayer and the Bible. Psalm 109, verse 8, went viral this morning in just that way.

Among the world's top Google searches today are phrases that contain the words "Psalms 109 8", and "Psalm 109 8 prayer for Obama". For those of you who may not know that particular verse, it reads "May his days be few, may another take over his position." And before anyone excuses this toxic use of scripture as nothing more than the wish that President Obama not be re-elected to a second term of office, the next verse in the psalm reads, "May his children be orphans and his wife a widow".

In fact, the entire chapter is about the prayed for death of an evil person. Not to mention that anyone who knows enough Bible to have thought about this verse in particular, surely knows the entire chapter and appreciates its message. Pretty scary stuff.

All this is especially upsetting in light of the last weeks' events at Fort Hood. Exactly how long is it going to take us to figure out the danger of linking faith claims and violent fantasies? How is it that the very same people who would have wanted to curtail access, and rightly so, to the hate-filled, violence-inducing, sermons to which Major Hasan listened, do not cry out against these prayers and those praying them?

The issue is not the scripture quoted or the name by which God is called by those doing the praying. The issue is invoking the God in whom any of us believe, to act as executioner of those with whom we disagree.
http://blog.beliefnet.com/windowsanddoors/2009/11/psalms-1098-an-ugly-prayer-for.html
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« Reply #46 on: November 20, 2009, 10:14:17 PM »

EXACTLY!!!

And again... there WAS no organized religious effort against bush or ray-gun, two conservatives who elicited as much dislike and anger from the left as any politician over the last 40 years. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #47 on: November 21, 2009, 08:34:18 AM »

That's what I was saying about not understanding, if you believe in God you know not to pray with malice.  

I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting. 1 Timothy 2:8

You are right Merciber...no way you can justify this mess AT ALL.  And the folks that don't have sense enough to study it for themselves and listen to these jack leg preachers are the saddest of all.....you don't EVER just go by what somebody says....study it and know it for yourself.


These folks are a trip.....it is shameful and scary at the same time no


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« Reply #48 on: November 21, 2009, 09:02:25 PM »

One thing for sure the devil knows scripture and the power of prayer.  A real man/woman of God would prayer that God change the POTUS's heart and mind. The devil would pray for his demise.
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« Reply #49 on: November 23, 2009, 08:57:36 AM »

THAT'S my point.

Think what kind of mind it takes to justify praying for someone to die.  Angry

The neo-cons and the religious right have formed an unholy union, and unfortunately, too many people are blinded by the lies that self-serving so-called cHRISTIAN ministers spin on sundays for their own benefit.  Angry Angry
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« Reply #50 on: November 23, 2009, 01:42:44 PM »

Honest question and I know some here are older than I.  Has this type of behavior ever been so strong and early in any Presiden'ts term.  Personally I don't recall and this is why I'm asking.
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« Reply #51 on: November 23, 2009, 08:18:04 PM »

I have NEVER in my 5 decades of life seen this type of behavior before... ESPECIALLY when it comes to the office of the Presidency.

richard nixon was a crook. Jimmy Carter was disliked by the right and far left. ronnie the ray-gun was the man who popularized modern political scapegoating and set the ball in motion for our current political climate of over-the-top partisanship by the right.

But even Clinton didn't bring out the pure heated hatred that these people have reserved for our first black president.  Angry
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« Reply #52 on: November 29, 2009, 11:47:15 AM »

And I'll add a decade and a half to Cholly's five to say that I, too, have never seen this kind of vitriol toward a President.

Truly sad.

However, success is the sweetest revenge!!

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« Reply #53 on: November 29, 2009, 12:52:52 PM »


stop lying cholly.  why did dan rather get fired.  how conveniently you forgot about how the major liberal media outlets had weekly meetings to put out bad and false stories against president george walker bush.  your favorite news stations continuously bashed president george walker bush.

Stop making stuff up, y04.

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« Reply #54 on: November 29, 2009, 03:21:07 PM »

I'm praying the secret service don't get lax on the job.....

Too late...
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« Reply #55 on: November 29, 2009, 03:25:12 PM »


stop lying cholly.  why did dan rather get fired.  how conveniently you forgot about how the major liberal media outlets had weekly meetings to put out bad and false stories against president george walker bush.  your favorite news stations continuously bashed president george walker bush.

Stop making stuff up, y04.

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« Reply #56 on: November 30, 2009, 10:03:19 PM »

Notice how he hasn't posted here lately.......
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