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« on: November 18, 2009, 10:04:50 AM »

These people are TRULY sick. WWJD? He SURE wouldn't pray for a mans death.  no

Biblical anti-Obama slogan: Use of Psalm 109:8 funny or sinister?

Psalms 109:8 says, 'Let his days be few; and let another take his office.' The citation is being passed around the Internet as a rallying cry against President Obama.

By Tracey D. Samuelson  |  Contributor/ November 16, 2009 edition of The Christian Science Monitor

There’s a new slogan making its way onto car bumpers and across the Internet. It reads simply: “Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8”

A nice sentiment?

Maybe not.

The psalm reads, “Let his days be few; and let another take his office.”

Presidential criticism through witty slogans is nothing new. Bumper stickers, t-shirts, and hats with “1/20/09” commemorated President Bush’s last day in office.

But the verse immediately following the psalm referenced is a bit more ominous: “Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.”

The slogan comes at a time of heightened concern about antigovernment anger. Earlier this year, the president’s senior adviser, David Axelrod, said that Tea Parties could lead to something unhealthy. In September, authorities shut down a poll on Facebook asking if President Obama should be killed.

Still, that doesn’t push the Psalms citation into the realm of hate speech, says Chris Hansen, a staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

The use of Psalm 109:8 is ambiguous as to whether its users are calling for the President to serve “only one term, or less than one term,” he says.

Deborah Lauter, director of civil rights at the Anti-Defamation League agrees that the bumper sticker falls within acceptable political discourse.

For it to be considered hate speech, it “would advocate actual violence or cite scripture that was more clear in its message.”

But that doesn’t mean that it’s completely innocent.

“Are we concerned about real hostility towards [President Obama]? Absolutely,” says Ms. Lauter. “Is this a part of that movement? It may be, but in terms of this message itself, we would not criticize it.”

“The problem is you don’t know if people who are donning that message in a shirt or on a bumper sticker are fully aware of the quote or what follows. Obviously that message makes the ambiguity disappear. If they’re just referring to him being out of office, that’s one thing. If they’re referring to him being dead, that’s so offensive. It’s protected speech, but it’s clearly offensive.”

For many, the slogan is just a humorous way express disapproval for President Obama. It’s been tweeted and retweeted by Obama critics with messages like “too funny” and “an excellent prayer for America.”

Twitter user Cheri Douglas felt compelled to share the psalm with others. Reached by phone, she said she found it on website while searching for Bible passages relating to leadership – a topic on which she writes, speaks, and consults for a living.

Ms. Douglas was unaware of the verses that followed the ones she referenced and doesn’t think that those who shared the psalm wish the President harm.

“I don’t believe there’s Christians who wish him ill will,” she says.

But Douglas does say she’s unhappy with the president and used the psalm to convey that she’d like him to serve only one term.
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2009, 10:09:47 AM »

Amazing.

I'm just waiting for the lynching signs to appear.
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2009, 10:12:54 AM »

THAT'S the goal!!

Watch this all the way through:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#34004795

"This is NOT funny stuff anymore."
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2009, 10:40:55 AM »

Exactly and the rhetoric is going unchecked and the left is sitting back.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2009, 10:47:06 AM »

Remember that thread I started a while back on the Fairness Doctrine?

It's time to reconsider it... before we have a civil war that will tear this nation apart. no
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2009, 11:06:36 AM »

This is clearly not about the political party.  The ignorant are pushing for something they don't understand.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2009, 11:08:45 AM »

^^^I beg to differ.

WATCH THIS CLIP ALL THE WAY THROUGH:

Watch this all the way through:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#34004795
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2009, 11:59:44 AM »

Amazing.

I'm just waiting for the lynching signs to appear.

We don't have to wait....we can watch video tape.
Folks were bringing lynching efigies of Obama to Palin rallies during the campaigm.
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2009, 02:14:11 PM »

This is clearly not about the political party.  The ignorant are pushing for something they don't understand.

Huh ....  shrug You mean you don't see the republican party trying to co-op those fringe elements (tea-partyers, birthers, etc) to give the appearance of some grass-root movements when it's really "astro-turf" that relies on republican backed finances and organization.   brickwall no
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2009, 02:28:37 PM »

Exactly and the rhetoric is going unchecked and the left is sitting back.

The rhetoric on President Bush went unchecked. I don't see where this rhetoric is hateful. rhetoric and even a video was made by a lunatic liberal on the assassination of President Bush. You people ought to check yourselves.
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2009, 02:49:15 PM »

Exactly and the rhetoric is going unchecked and the left is sitting back.

The rhetoric on President Bush went unchecked. I don't see where this rhetoric is hateful. rhetoric and even a video was made by a lunatic liberal on the assassination of President Bush. You people ought to check yourselves.

Oldsport,

Please stop with your fake psuedo-conservative internet talk!!! I delete more emails from GOP sources sent by workers than you can look up in a lifetime.

No movement from the left "prayed" for the former president to die. Sure there were one or two nuts but not a movment headed by a so-called news network.
 
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2009, 03:11:23 PM »

Exactly and the rhetoric is going unchecked and the left is sitting back.

The rhetoric on President Bush went unchecked. I don't see where this rhetoric is hateful. rhetoric and even a video was made by a lunatic liberal on the assassination of President Bush. You people ought to check yourselves.

Oldsport,

Please stop with your fake psuedo-conservative internet talk!!! I delete more emails from GOP sources sent by workers than you can look up in a lifetime.

No movement from the left "prayed" for the former president to die. Sure there were one or two nuts but not a movment headed by a so-called news network.
 

Come on, these folk are not praying for Barry's death.
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2009, 05:14:18 PM »

From the Book of Psalm:

109:8 Let his days be few; [and] let another take his office.

109:9 Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.

109:10 Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek [their bread] also out of their desolate places.

It's pretty clear what these people want... at least it's clear to intellegent, critically thinking people who aren't hyperpartisan neo-cons with their heads up their own proverbial rumps. Roll Eyes


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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2009, 08:00:43 AM »

From the Book of Psalm:

109:8 Let his days be few; [and] let another take his office.

109:9 Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.

109:10 Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek [their bread] also out of their desolate places.

It's pretty clear what these people want... at least it's clear to intellegent, critically thinking people who aren't hyperpartisan neo-cons with their heads up their own proverbial rumps. Roll Eyes




stop lying cholly.  you wished the same thing for president george walker bush. 

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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2009, 08:50:13 AM »

Unbelievable! no  Let's pray that God will keep our leader and lead him in the right directions.  That is the prayer I prayed for Bush, and that is the prayer I pray for Obama.  They are a bunch of sore losers if you ask me that support this type of doing.  Too bad a few on this board think something like this is o.k.  Sell-outs! nono2
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